On the 7th day of Christmas................

[Stephen]

Ahh bet that gotcha Anyway there are 7 wind turbines

Came across these whilst on an unrelated job and have only just got round to looking at them.

What do you think, does the desat and grain work. I'll maybe post the original later if you all hate this one. But I rather like it, won't be upset if you don't though

[Archangel]

Re: On the 7th day of Christmas................

Ahh bet that gotcha Anyway there are 7 wind turbines

Came across these whilst on an unrelated job and have only just got round to looking at them.

What do you think, does the desat and grain work. I'll maybe post the original later if you all hate this one. But I rather like it, won't be upset if you don't though

Hi Stephen,

From an artistic point of view, I would like it if it was much more artistic boosted. Like it is now I think that the grain did a very good job on the land but it slightly exaggerated the sky. If it was more boosted, I think it would look more even artistically.
I also think that the normal version would also do the job perfectly.
In my opinion this photo has the potential to make a very good artistic and also be a very good natural one.


Regards

George

[Bearface]

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Nicely composed, but the desat doesn't feel right to me. No problem with the grain - in fact I like it - but I think this shot needs colour.

Sort it out

[guymclaren]

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This is an awesome shot. It speaks of lonely coast lines and pretty bad weather, It makes me think of England with a touch of Falklands. I like it as it stands

[guymclaren]

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Oh yes I want to walk over that hill and find real solitude

[peter]

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I like this as well. I was reading the other day that someone plans to build a big wind farm just out to sea now that would also look cool. Having said that I also saw a report the other day that said something like the amount of power from these wind turbines was not as high as was predicted.

[Tom]

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I feel that the lack of colour does the overall a little bit of injustice. I like to think that alterations such as this ought to enhance or change a mood or atmosphere somewhat. In this case it just looks immediately that it has been desaturated and a bit too blatant for the want of a better word.
The grain does not damage the image so much but I would prefer it without.
I like very much the composition and I just feel what a pity to see these windmills (not too unsightly) on this beautiful looking landscape, but it could be a lot worse.

[Stephen]

Re: On the 7th day of Christmas................

Hi Stephen,

From an artistic point of view, I would like it if it was much more artistic boosted. Like it is now I think that the grain did a very good job on the land but it slightly exaggerated the sky. If it was more boosted, I think it would look more even artistically.
I also think that the normal version would also do the job perfectly.
In my opinion this photo has the potential to make a very good artistic and also be a very good natural one.


Regards

George

George I'm a little confused about what you mean by "artistic boosted" and whilst I accept there may be something lost in the translation could you clarify. I suspect you are saying you are not keen on the desaturation and you feel it needs more saturation, at least the original colour. If so, fair enough I did ask for opinions on this.

The implication of your welcome comment (thanks for that) is that there is little aristic input, and yet I have clearly created an image that contains something of an intentional input on my part, in an attempt to make it more a piece of fineart by producing a distictly different feel to the scene. In your final sentence you seem to suggest that an unaltered (natural) image is not artistic Is this a fair understanding

[Stephen]

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Oh yes I want to walk over that hill and find real solitude

Thanks Guy it has obviously stirred some emotions in you, which is pleasing from my point of view, and justifies something of my artistic intent

[Stephen]

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I like this as well. I was reading the other day that someone plans to build a big wind farm just out to sea now that would also look cool. Having said that I also saw a report the other day that said something like the amount of power from these wind turbines was not as high as was predicted.

Best we don't go there in this forum eh Peter

[Stephen]

Re: On the 7th day of Christmas................

I feel that the lack of colour does the overall a little bit of injustice. I like to think that alterations such as this ought to enhance or change a mood or atmosphere somewhat. In this case it just looks immediately that it has been desaturated and a bit too blatant for the want of a better word.
The grain does not damage the image so much but I would prefer it without.
I like very much the composition and I just feel what a pity to see these windmills (not too unsightly) on this beautiful looking landscape, but it could be a lot worse.

It has obviously created enough mood to inspire your comment Tom D) thanks for that. It certainly stirred some emotion in Guy. I suspect I know what you are getting at though, and is why I offered it for comments.

[lumix]

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Stephen I do not seem to share the same enthusiasm for art as many others. Please explain your reasons for turning an image of a modern nature into something that looks like it was produced in the 70's with out of date film. I know I'm old fashioned but to me this is a good image that needs to be represented by modern technology.

[Stephen]

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Stephen I do not seem to share the same enthusiasm for art as many others. Please explain your reasons for turning an image of a modern nature into something that looks like it was produced in the 70's with out of date film. I know I'm old fashioned but to me this is a good image that needs to be represented by modern technology.

Hi Ron, its simply an attempt on my part to instill a slightly different feel to the image, which it has clearly done even if its only interpreted as outdated film

There are many on these boards who will have little idea of what it is to which you refer. In my film days I tried various techniques to do much the same and be a little creative. I refer to push processing, selenium toning, sepia toning, cross processing, reticulated grain and others which escape me now.

Its my opinion that there is more to this photography lark than just offering the straight out of camera image for comment, sometimes I feel it needs something else, call it enhancement if you like, call it feel, texture, and expression of how one felt about a scene. Yes, photography is very much about feelings, and these can be expressed in many ways. Whether the viewer appreciates that or agrees with what has been done is of course up to them. You can't please all of the people all of the time

As for this particular image, I offered it for critique to get peoples opinions as to whether it works. The "modern" nature of the image frankly never really occured to me, what I was trying to create was a feel of the wild grey hill country of the North of England, I was not even making any form of comment on the windturbine issue

Hope that makes some sense

[Archangel]

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George I'm a little confused about what you mean by "artistic boosted" and whilst I accept there may be something lost in the translation could you clarify. I suspect you are saying you are not keen on the desaturation and you feel it needs more saturation, at least the original colour. If so, fair enough I did ask for opinions on this.

The implication of your welcome comment (thanks for that) is that there is little aristic input, and yet I have clearly created an image that contains something of an intentional input on my part, in an attempt to make it more a piece of fineart by producing a distictly different feel to the scene. In your final sentence you seem to suggest that an unaltered (natural) image is not artistic Is this a fair understanding

Hi Stephen,

I don't mind the desaturation or the grain effect you have applied on the photo. Though while the grain in the land is a nice boost and brings more detail out, I think it is too much visible in the sky, thus making the land look natural and the sky not so natural and the entire photo slightly unbalanced in terms of noise addition in my opinion of course.

So in this case and by trying intentionally with your input to produce a piece making it look more like fine art as you said, you have passed the stage of originality of the initial photo. So I think in this case applying the same effects (or possibly some other additionally of your choice) in a more intense form will boost the artistic effect more in the photo, alter it a lot.

The photo as is now (while it doesn't bother me) it leaves me a taste of a half way to look artistic. To me it is like something between artistic and original photo but not clearly one of either.

In my last sentence I wrote that this photo has the potential to look very good as untouched/unaltered or as artistic effect boosted, which is true and which you already confirmed by attempting as you said to make it more a piece of fine art.
I didn't say anything about unaltered photos cannot look artistic. Some of them do, some don't.


Regards

George

[lumix]

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I think that before an image is subjected to artistic interpretation the subject matter should be considered carefully. Had this been an image of an old style windmill, then your approach to this would have worked. To me they are two conflicting styles, old and modern, and It just don't work for me. Apply a watercolour or oil painting look then that may work. My personal choice for this image, if it had been mine and I felt it needed some treatment, would have been a mosaic finish. All a matter of personal taste I suppose but nevertheless this is what make photography so interesting.