A little bit of a worry

[Patrick]

I have been sorting a few images for the gallery, some butterflies to be precise
I selected some taken yesterday and one taken last week.
Now here is the worry.

Of the pictures uploaded one was taken with my G10, the other with my 40D fitted with a lens which alone cost a few hundred pounds more than the G10.

Makes you think a bit.

Patrick

[Pops]

Re: A little bit of a worry

The worry would be if viewers couldn't tell the difference between the two

[Patrick]

Re: A little bit of a worry

The worry would be if viewers couldn't tell the difference between the two

Hi Pops
Check my new posts of butterfliesw to my galley and see if you can tell.

Patrick

[Pol]

Re: A little bit of a worry

I have been sorting a few images for the gallery, some butterflies to be precise
I selected some taken yesterday and one taken last week.
Now here is the worry.

Of the pictures uploaded one was taken with my G10, the other with my 40D fitted with a lens which alone cost a few hundred pounds more than the G10.

Makes you think a bit.

Patrick

I sometimes feel that way too, especially when I get prints back and can't remember which ones came off the Leica C-lux and which ones were off the K20D + expensive prime lens.

The Leica, which is tiny, will often get the shot where I'd have got nothing at all if I'd had to reach for the SLR. It's also so tiny it fits into a small pocket.

Good things come in small packages. I love my little Leica!

Pol

[Bob Ross]

Re: A little bit of a worry

I sometimes feel that way too, especially when I get prints back and can't remember which ones came off the Leica C-lux and which ones were off the K20D + expensive prime lens.

The Leica, which is tiny, will often get the shot where I'd have got nothing at all if I'd had to reach for the SLR. It's also so tiny it fits into a small pocket.

Good things come in small packages. I love my little Leica!

Pol

Hi Pol,
My moment came when I had some similar prints from my Oly E-3, Leica M8 and a Pany FX500 and my wife asked, "Now, why is it you spent so much on the M8?"...... I have often found that the difference between "old" print that I have around and the "new" ones is more about processing progress than equipment evolution. When I took some old Coolpix 5000 shots and reprocessed them with something that I had learned recently, plus my general improvement in PP, I was amazed, at the difference.
Bob

[Patrick]

Re: A little bit of a worry

Hi Pops
Check my new posts of butterflies to my galley and see if you can tell.

Patrick

http://dpnow.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/17942

Again this was taken with the 10G leaning forward without any stability and at arms length, I would have thought guaranteed to give camera shake.
As can be seen its as sharp as a tack, and full of detail.

Shot at ISO80 f4.5 -0.33 1/200 focal length 30.5 Macro mode activated.

Other than perhaps a more blurred background I cant see I would have done any better with the DSLR with a macro lens.

Patrick

[Stephen]

Re: A little bit of a worry

Again this was taken with the 10G leaning forward without any stability and at arms length, I would have thought guaranteed to give camera shake.
As can be seen its as sharp as a tack, and full of detail.

Shot at ISO80 f4.5 -0.33 1/200 focal length 30.5 Macro mode activated.

Other than perhaps a more blurred background I cant see I would have done any better with the DSLR with a macro lens.

Patrick

Do you switch off the IS on the G10 Patrick? On my G9 I have it switched on all the time. A cracking shot by the way

[Stephen]

Re: A little bit of a worry

I should also add that although the shots from your G10 are tack sharp etc and people may question the need for expensive dSLR's and lenses. The fact is that they simply won't stand up to the same scrutiny and manipulation as those from a dSLR. When you start cropping or doing some selective lightening etc. it becomes more clear why the small sensor cameras are not as good. The G10 does in fact have a slightly larger sensor than the average digicam, but they are not such good files as from the dSLR cameras. Also if you put the G10 on much above ISO100 you can also start to see the difference

[Patrick]

Re: A little bit of a worry

I should also add that although the shots from your G10 are tack sharp etc and people may question the need for expensive dSLR's and lenses. The fact is that they simply won't stand up to the same scrutiny and manipulation as those from a dSLR. When you start cropping or doing some selective lightening etc. it becomes more clear why the small sensor cameras are not as good. The G10 does in fact have a slightly larger sensor than the average digicam, but they are not such good files as from the dSLR cameras. Also if you put the G10 on much above ISO100 you can also start to see the difference

Hi stephen

To answer your question re the stabilizer it was on continuous, I have now changed it to Shoot only. It holds the setting until I choose to change it.

I do agree with you but: much can still be done, this image was in fact worked on lightened, darkened, contrast changes and cropped.
I have printed an A3 and the print quality is superb.
There is no disputing your comment on noise, it was shot at ISO80 at 400 I would probably have had to settle for a A4 with some noise. The other factor of course is depth of field, to much of it at wider apatures.
Fake DF could be done but on a subject like this it would be a bugger to do.

I have attatched the original untouched file along side the worked file.

Patrick

[Ian]

Re: A little bit of a worry

There is a school of thought that in-lens IS (as opposed to sensor shift IS) should be set to trigger only at the same time as the shutter is released as this minimises the chance of the correcting lens being too far off-centre at the time of exposure. With a lens being off-centre there is more chance that the optical quality of the shot will be compromised. In short, don't use continuous IS.

Ian

[Stephen]

Re: A little bit of a worry

You have done a nice job Patrick