Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

[jds9000]

Thinking of maybe investing in a Canon 40D to go with my 400D, as it's faster, more burst rate, bigger buffer and 'live' view.
I know it's pretty close to the 400D, but after reading many write-ups, and looking over the stats, it seems to be the next step up for me. I'd love a 5D, but it'll probably get replaced with an even more expensive model, and anything up from that I'd have to start selling the kids

I know it's a bit 'chunkier' as I've already been down to Jessops to 'drool' over one, but he wouldn't actually let me see it working

Just wondered if anyone out there had any experiences (good/bad) with it ?

Jay

[devilgas]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

bought one a few months ago when the 10d started playing up again. the increased burst rate is great and the performance of the camera (compared to 10d and 350d) is significantly better. focussing is faster and more accurate in low light. you're unlikely to run into buffer issues while burst shooting unless you are taking a *lot* of photos in one hit. with the 10d i'd occasionally hit the limit of the 9 shot burst when taking multiple burst sequences and the previous stuff hadn't written to the card as yet. haven't come close to doing this on the 40d.

i always hated the 350 for being too small. the 40d is the same size as the 10d so feels like you're not holding a toy.

as for live view. never used it. can see it's benefits if the camera gets housed for diving, but in the usual stuff i shoot there's no requirement to use it.

nothing bad to report.

[jds9000]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

bought one a few months ago when the 10d started playing up again. the increased burst rate is great and the performance of the camera (compared to 10d and 350d) is significantly better. focussing is faster and more accurate in low light. you're unlikely to run into buffer issues while burst shooting unless you are taking a *lot* of photos in one hit. with the 10d i'd occasionally hit the limit of the 9 shot burst when taking multiple burst sequences and the previous stuff hadn't written to the card as yet. haven't come close to doing this on the 40d.

i always hated the 350 for being too small. the 40d is the same size as the 10d so feels like you're not holding a toy.

as for live view. never used it. can see it's benefits if the camera gets housed for diving, but in the usual stuff i shoot there's no requirement to use it.

nothing bad to report.

That was going to be my second question .... noise .... ?
If it's better than the 350, then I'm off to the shops at the weekend

That seems to be my biggest problem .... I like wildlife, and can't really get close, so I use long lenses/multipliers and then have to crop, so can produce a lot of noise.

I'm getting better at it, but still a lot to learn

Jay

[devilgas]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

noise - have never done back to back comparisons with the 350d, but i regularly shoot at iso1600. i don't like shooting at this iso as noise and sharpness is more of an issue at the highest iso settings. usually shoot iso100-400 where neither noise or sharpness is a consideration. you can get some idea of both from this gallery - http://www.devilgas.com/viewGallery....blues_pentyrch
all at iso 1600, F2.8 with shutter speeds from about 1/40th to 1/200th if i was in the brightest part of the pitch (the lighting there was pretty poor). photo 61 gives a good representation of colour noise. i'll try to remember to post an unmodified version of part of the photo tonight.
to compare noise to the 10d, i'm of the opinion that the 10d was worse than the 40d, however not sure how much of this is rose tinted glasses syndrome though.

[jds9000]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

Some great shots there .... great sense of movement.

Whenever I shoot at night, it's either pitch black, or there's a blur over the screen .... and that's your lot !!

I've done some with the tripod, landscapes ... at night, but even they usually end up being a bit 'blown' with the lights. Must get in some practice.

It seems to be combination of high ISO with a slow'ish shutter speed that I can't get to grips with ...

Thanks for the help though ...

Jay

[Patrick]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

Some great shots there .... great sense of movement.

Whenever I shoot at night, it's either pitch black, or there's a blur over the screen .... and that's your lot !!

I've done some with the tripod, landscapes ... at night, but even they usually end up being a bit 'blown' with the lights. Must get in some practice.

It seems to be combination of high ISO with a slow'ish shutter speed that I can't get to grips with ...

Thanks for the help though ...

Jay

I have used the live view on my 40D, its very useful for macro and still life and possibly portraiture (haven't tried that yet)
It's particularly effective tethered to a Laptop or PC, giving the user the ability to see the image on screen before the exposure is made. There is a little rectagle on screen and that can be toggled round the image to select an exact focus point the photographer wants to use, for macro that is particularly good.
I was very cynical about live view at first but having used it I now appreciate its value.
The 40D is significantly better than the 10D for noise a correctly exposed 800ISO exposure is a match for a 200ISO exposure on the 10D. as to how it fairs against the 400D I can't comment but I should imagine you wont be disappointed.

Patrick

[devilgas]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

dumb question or 3 patrick.....

with it being tethered, what software do you use? how much remote control is there over the camera? presumably the image can be recorded direct to the computer?
never tried tethered shooting, but seems like it may be worth a play.

[jds9000]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

That settles it then ..... 40D it is ....

I'll order it on friday .... That'll give me month to get the rebate in

Fixation here I come .....

Jay


.... now where's that credit card .....

[peter]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

Well I will have to pop over at the weekend then and see your new toy, hope you have told my sister what you are up to

[peter]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

Oh and I hear the Nikon d3 is the best thing on the market for noise at the moment. Then you would have to start selling the kids off

[Patrick]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

dumb question or 3 patrick.....

with it being tethered, what software do you use? how much remote control is there over the camera? presumably the image can be recorded direct to the computer?
never tried tethered shooting, but seems like it may be worth a play.

[Andrew Thatcher]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

This is my only shot i have used live view so far. Tripod was in about 2 feet of water and the camera was at arms length away from me. it was taken in a dark valley with no sunlight. In sunlight the screen is useless. cant see myself using it too much more to be honest.

[peter]

Re: Anyone tried out 'Live' view yet ?

HI Andrew
sorry off topic I know but the above picture is it taken with any added filters or was anything added later in ps. If you do not want to bog down this thread could you pm with the answers.

Thanks pete