Nude Photography

[lourensb]

Hi All..

Please can I get some insight from some of the more experienced Photogs here.

I am really Facinated by Nude Photography. Not Porn. But Nude Art.

There is a Big Whoo Haa About this Topic, witch I don't want to Argue..

I have Taken My Firt Few Shots, And would like some of the pro's to comment on Them.

I've Noticed that on this Forum, There is not a Nude Section.

Can anyone advise me of a Good Forum, with a Discusion or Critique bord, that does allow for such photos to be uploaded for Critique ?

Thanks For your time..

[Ian]

Re: Nude Photography

Hi All..

Please can I get some insight from some of the more experienced Photogs here.

I am really Facinated by Nude Photography. Not Porn. But Nude Art.

There is a Big Whoo Haa About this Topic, witch I don't want to Argue..

I have Taken My Firt Few Shots, And would like some of the pro's to comment on Them.

I've Noticed that on this Forum, There is not a Nude Section.

Can anyone advise me of a Good Forum, with a Discusion or Critique bord, that does allow for such photos to be uploaded for Critique ?

Thanks For your time..

Oddly enough, I have very recently discussed the intention to add a gallery category to cater for glamour and nude photography. I don't deny it's something that needs careful thought as DPNow is primarily a family-oriented site, but there is great potential for tasteful nude photography and I'm no prude in that sense. But it will need to be tackled sensitively - especially as we also want to explore the option of a 'DPNow Junior' kind of offering for young photographers.

Ian

[lourensb]

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Agreed... However... Ian...

I Know that there are options on Forums where only Selected Members Have Access.

This Might me A bit more Administration for the Site Admins... But I believe there are a lot of Potential in this field.

There's a Forum for Canon Users only, Witch Has a Bit tight Mesurement..

However I can Give you the link to them, And you can see what the Criteria is.

This is not to Steal From another Forum... Its just as a overall Insight.

However Yes.. I believe that it should not be Viewable to all, As lots of people might Feel offended by this..

Also Something that might Cause a Problem is "Where" to upload the Photos. I'm not sure if there would be an Option to Upload Photos to a Gallery, But have it not Visible to the Rest of The Community ?


I used to have a Forum on Racing, and Also in my Company I have a Forum for my Internal Staff, And I know that you can make a "Group" and Give only them the Rights to Even See the Threads in that Group ?

Just a Thought Though.

[lourensb]

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Maybe We can Ask the Question, That people who are interested in Such Group... can Either Post here, or PM "a Admin" and see if there are interest in this, on THIS Forum.

But give it some thought. And Lets see what happens ?

[Patrick]

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Maybe We can Ask the Question, That people who are interested in Such Group... can Either Post here, or PM "a Admin" and see if there are interest in this, on THIS Forum.

But give it some thought. And Lets see what happens ?

Hi Lou

Figure photography as I prefer to call nude photography is something I have dabbled in from time to time. Not done any for a year or two I find it a little expensive to pay for professional models.
I believe generally using professional models results in better results for this type of work. They are used to it and are more relaxed than the amateur model, tension can show and spoil the images.
I found it to be very challenging walking that line between good taste and the tacky. Not helped by the fact that everyones idea of tasteful or tacky can vary a great deal.
My rule of thumb, if I couldn't show the results to my wife then they were tacky.
There are one or two on my website www.patrickhphotographer.co.uk this particular model was semi professional.

Patrick

[paul.r.w]

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I'm always willing to look at nudes, glamour, figures...whatever you like to call it. I'm just that sort of bloke!

No I don't read the Sun!

[ekkl]

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Me too!

I would love to see a nude section but only because I am a bit of a perve

[Patrick]

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Me too!

I would love to see a nude section but only because I am a bit of a perve

This is just the sort of rubbish talk that gets this type of photography a bad reputation.
It might be in jest but its still out of place.

Patrick

[ekkl]

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A throw-away comment (which everyone can see is clearly in jest) on an internet forum does not get this kind of photography a bad name. It is the pictures of kids i.e fine art, that gets it a bad name.............

[Patrick]

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A throw-away comment (which everyone can see is clearly in jest) on an internet forum does not get this kind of photography a bad name. It is the pictures of kids i.e fine art, that gets it a bad name.............

When dealing with figure or nude photography the less suggestion of titillation the better, otherwise it gets grouped up with the girlie mag type photography.

A throw away comment it may be but ill considered none the less, and I can assure you it would be offensive to models.
I used to do some drawing years ago and attended a life class, the model was a semi professional in her late middle age and for her full time employment worked in a big department store, where another pupil saw her. The next class he mentioned seeing here, and with a similar throw away joke said he didn't recognize her with her cloths on.
She was not in the least bit amused and told him so in no uncertain terms.

The type of imagery you refer to of children is entirely different matter and was dealt with on another thread.

Why you lump in fine art as being suspect I don't know, that term can encompass everything from figure photography to landscape, drooping of along the way to still life and other types of photography.
Unfortunately there are those that try and justify questionable and on occasion offensive material by using the phrase Fine Art.

Patrick

[ekkl]

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Hi Patrick. I couldn't agree more with your last sentence.

I lump in fine art pictures because there are a few websites that are clearly nude teenagers, the likes of Met-Art and Galtin flag their sites as fine art photography. Just last year a bloke from the eastern europe was put in prison as some of the models on his (fine art) site were underage. As I say, lumped in by the sites own definition. These sites seem to pride themselves on showing young models nude and unfortunately try to pass it off as 'fine art photography'.

The kind of man who subscribes to these sites is not your average photographer (well I would hope not anyway) these blokes don't look at the pictures of young girls thinking "Yea, the light is ok in this one" and "Hmm, focus around the eyes is not perfect......" they are there to look at the nude girls! Proof is the thousands of men who subscribe to these kind of sites. As you rightly say though, there are people around who will try and justify these so called photography sites.

I can see your point of my comment being offensive but the kind of people who complain and group up figure and nude photography with girly mag stuff are unlikely to be reading these forums are they!

[Patrick]

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I can see your point of my comment being offensive but the kind of people who complain and group up figure and nude photography with girly mag stuff are unlikely to be reading these forums are they!

Well who knows?

Going back to fine art discussion, I have photo books by the likes of Edward Weston, John Swannell, Man Ray, and other celebrated photographers, there are images that I find doubtful in these books, as well as some very fine work. We can at times be swept along by high profile names and accept things we are perhaps uncomfortable with.

Patrick

[paul.r.w]

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I don't know any of these names being a bit of a Philistine, all I know is men like looking at pictures of women, be it fine art, glamour or porn. I would hope being a photograhpy forum we could appreciate the art of the photograph or be interested in the glamour side as this is a huge industry. I'll leave the porn to the rest of the internet!

[Ian]

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Well who knows?

Going back to fine art discussion, I have photo books by the likes of Edward Weston, John Swannell, Man Ray, and other celebrated photographers, there are images that I find doubtful in these books, as well as some very fine work. We can at times be swept along by high profile names and accept things we are perhaps uncomfortable with.

Patrick

There is no firm borderline - I recently went to the opening of the Lee Miller exhibition at the V&A (in London) and there was a picture of her as a teenager taken by her father in the nude. I was left cold by that one, no matter how beautiful her form - the fact that her father took it was beyond my personal limit, but clearly not that of the exhibitors or, indeed, her son, who would have been instrumental in the selection of images for the exhibition. Who is right and who is wrong? There is no answer really.

Ian

[paul.r.w]

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It depends on how you view nudity. All my kids have seen each other and me and their mum nude and still do on occasion, there's no shame or embarrassment. Not sure if I'd take a picture and exhibit it though. (that's because I'm crap photographer!