B&W Old School Photography

[Bob Ross]

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Nothing as exciting as yesterday Im afraid, to be honest I did forget and have just taken these of my bike:

Wopped the iso back up on these,1600, I dont think the grain is half as noticeable as it would have been in colour.

I like the bike shots, Ash and the church shot where you used flash is very good. I think one of the reasons for less grain in out of camera B&W is that most cameras create monochrome like doing channel mixing. I recently read the mix was 0.30 Red, 0.59 Green and 0.11 Blue. I'm sure it varies by mfr. & model. Since the blue and red channels get cut back, so does the noise, which tends to reside in those channels.
The one area that I get bothered by is the gray scale translation of the color spectrum, which is why I tend to use an orange filter. It seems to separate the color in the gray scale better, giving better definition of some color transitions.
Here are a few new ones, from yesterday,
Bob

[ash]

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Interesting bit of info on the b&w there bob, so tip of the day is ' if ya need to shoot high iso, do in cam b&w' I like it
Another lovely set of images and I especially like the token, where can I get some of those?

[ash]

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I dont think Im so young but if you want to call me young lad thats fine with me
Did you have anyone looking at you funny when you were taking these?
I often get the feeling that everyone is just watching you when you get a big stonking slr out of a bag in a busy high st and start taking pictures, anyone would think it was a machine gun
Like the shots keep it up!

[ash]

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Day 5 and Im sorry to say Ill have to break my own rules, Ive been so busy today I have not shot one frame but I won't dissapoint you Ill post one from the Abbey yesterday
I loved this scene as I was walking around the abbey I just wished there was a couple of people or person sat on the bench, could have been a cracker.
I won't be able to post for the next couple of nights but will still be taking shots and will share them with you Sunday.
So Im hoping you all will keep posting pics each day as I will be looking forward to seeing them soon, and if you have not posted a pic, go on why not, it only takes a couple of mins to upload one, Ide be chuffed to bits if I come back and theres a stack of pics to look at!

[Rodbender]

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Well OK, you have twisted my arm. Here's one of our local Abbey

[Bob Ross]

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Interesting bit of info on the b&w there bob, so tip of the day is ' if ya need to shoot high iso, do in cam b&w' I like it
Another lovely set of images and I especially like the token, where can I get some of those?

Hi Ash,
My muse took the day off, so no contributions. That Token has a chance of being authentic, but alas the saloon is out of business long ago.
I once tried to make gritty/grainy pictures out of the camera with my CP5000, the noisiest camera I own. The experiment was a failure, because the noise was in the channels cut by the cameras conversion. I then moved on to the various "add noise" techniques Of the shots that I posted the "Pixie" is at ISO1600. The others are with the ISO on Auto with the E-3.
On your "big" camera comment, I have noticed people do watch me when I have the E-3 and the actually ignore me after a glance when I use my M8....just an old fart with his old timey camera.....he might even be using film Maybe my muse will come back if I switch to the M8 for the rest of your challenge??
Bob

[Caz]

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Of the shots posted since my last effort, I particularly liked the wooden one from Bob's offerings - excellent contrast and DOF.

Ash - that's a great woodland scene, even though it's in black and white it's very evocative of autumn. Is it me, or is it on a bit of a tilt?

Rod's abbey has plenty of interest, the dramatic clouds behind the church make it for me.

Ash - you asked if people gave me a funny look when I was taking the statues - the answer is definitely yes, although I only had the compact with me. I was after the anvil with children playing, but tried to take it too quickly when the local street hooverer paused to let me take the shot, and cut the kids head off..... shame, so that's one to try again.

So here's the last one from yesterday, of Northampton's Gothic Guildhall, with the modern extension beside. I waited about 5 minutes, but that ruddy van didn't move...

[Bob Ross]

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Ill post one from the Abbey yesterday
I loved this scene as I was walking around the abbey I just wished there was a couple of people or person sat on the bench, could have been a cracker.

Hi Ash,
I don't know what is off to the right side of this fram, but I would have shifted to the right to bring the left side of the walk way to the lower left corner of the frame. I agree that people would have helped scale the scene.
Bob

[Bob Ross]

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Hi Cas,
That is certainly a moody rendition, it goes good with the architechture. Too bad there weren't some stormy clouds roiling over head.
Bob

[Bob Ross]

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To cap my contributions to the challenge off, I considered Ash's comment about large cameras being noticed and got my FX500 out, to see how it does.
It was set auto for everything, so I up the contrast, but forgot to up the sharpening (did that after resizing). Not bad for a pocket camera. Next time I'll put my glasses on for framing.....
Bob
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[ash]

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Thanks Rod, a very striking scene of very old and old in the same shot, Im not sure how much you adeared to the brief, but thanks very much for your input.
Ash.

[ash]

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Hi caz and thanks for your input into my little assignment, as to wether an image is on a tilt or not, the eye of the viewer tends to look for something in the picture that resembles something horizontal or vertical to compare the rest of the scene to, most of the picture is on unlevel ground but if you look at the bin and seat, I think they are level and for me gives the whole pic the impression it is correct. However I respect your view and as I don't no which way - left or right- you think the scene is offset feel free to tilt the image a repost so I can see your perspective.
cheers
Ash.

[ash]

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A Good set to finish off with Bob, and thanks for your input.
I have learnt alot the past week and feel in general we can all get bogged down with the vast majority of lenses available, all Im sure exeling in there specific job, but to just have 1 lens on the camera and make do, makes you think about the scene alot more and I think the outcome of the image straight from the camera is better.
The b&w in camera and not altering anything on the computer kinda ties in to the 1 lens thing and thought it was a good challenge for anyone taking part, I myself have got into the habit of thinking I can improve an image if I need to before ive even taken it! Which to me should not be the case and is bad practice.
Im a bit dissapointed there were not more forum regulers posting pics.
I never like good things to end so I hope you can all feel you can post pics to this thread whenever you wish and give a brief discription and hopefully no post processing!

I will be posting pics regularly aslong as the forum will let me, of b&w images with my d200 and my 50mm lens with no tweeks, it won't be everyday but when I can.
If you have followed this thread upto now then thankyou!
cheers
Ash.

[ash]

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Ok, the reason I fell short of my own challenge fri, sat & sun was because I was at blackpool on a short break, the weather was very poor as seen in this shot, and for the second time for me in 1 year the blackpool tower lift was unavailable due to high winds, I was very dissapointed, maybe I should try the summer!
This shot was taken on sat morning before 9am and show's just how rough the sea was, the large white patch is a wave that has just crashed on the concrete sea front defences. Shortly after this photo was taken we all got caught out and had to return to the hotel being drenched!
The only sin ive made in this photo was the change of lens, to my nikon 18-200 vr, but in cam b&w and no tweeking still prevails!

[ash]

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We visited the zoo on the sunday and this is one of the best shots which I love.