Tonight's Moon two different cameras

[Greytop]

Both were taken using the Tokina 300 and stacked x1.4 and x2 teleconverters. Effective focal length 840 mm.





Comments welcomed

[Pops]

Re: Tonight's Moon two different cameras

Amazing detail but I am confused.
The title say's taken with different camera's but then added info says Both were taken using the Tokina 300

[Pol]

Re: Tonight's Moon two different cameras

Amazing detail but I am confused.
The title say's taken with different camera's but then added info says Both were taken using the Tokina 300

The Tokina 300 is the lens and the images were shot using a Fujifilm X-E1 (first pic iirc) and the other pic is from an Oly E-M5

FWIW - I think I prefer the second picci - but I might change my mind later.

Pol

[Ian]

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The first was taken with a Fuji X-E1 and the second with an Olympus OM-D E-M5.

It would be useful to know what the effective aperture was.

The detail levels of both are pretty much the same really and surprisingly good with stacked converters.

Interesting that the Fuji version is almost monotone.

Ian

[David M]

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I'll guess f/11, one stop down from wide open.

[Ian]

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I'll guess f/11, one stop down from wide open.

Not ideal to avoid diffraction. Am tempted to have (yet) another go myself tonight with the 300mm f/2.8 and EC-20 (2x) if the sky remains clear tonight... will probably keep it to f/6.3.

Ian

[Greytop]

Re: Tonight's Moon two different cameras

Amazing detail but I am confused.
The title say's taken with different camera's but then added info says Both were taken using the Tokina 300

Thanks Pops, as Pol says below the lens is my Tokina 300.

The Tokina 300 is the lens and the images were shot using a Fujifilm X-E1 (first pic iirc) and the other pic is from an Oly E-M5

FWIW - I think I prefer the second picci - but I might change my mind later.

Pol

Thanks Pol the E-M5 has rendered the image with a warm looking tone. Difficult to say which one is correct though

The first was taken with a Fuji X-E1 and the second with an Olympus OM-D E-M5.

It would be useful to know what the effective aperture was.

The detail levels of both are pretty much the same really and surprisingly good with stacked converters.

Interesting that the Fuji version is almost monotone.

Ian

Hi Ian, thanks for your comments, I had adjusted the white balance slightly for both images in CO7 but I've just uploaded the unaltered versions, everything else as was.
Both cameras performed well with pleasing results, obviously the Oly image is somewhat larger so was re-sized possibly helping with apparent detail levels.
David's guess at the effective aperture is probably right I couldn't see exactly how much I had stopped down but it wasn't much. Of course I'm losing three stops with the converters.

Just from an interest point of view here is a 100% crop from the X-E1 taken with the 300 and the Canon x1.4 only. This is where the X-Trans sensor excels as well as noise control.

I'll guess f/11, one stop down from wide open.

Good guess David, I think you are about right

Not ideal to avoid diffraction. Am tempted to have (yet) another go myself tonight with the 300mm f/2.8 and EC-20 (2x) if the sky remains clear tonight... will probably keep it to f/6.3.

Ian

Looking forward to seeing your images Ian (if you get a chance)

[David M]

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I always try to stop down a stop with any TC or combination. Even using 600mm lenses in my film shooting days I try to stop down one stop if I had the light to. All the fast telephotos I've used over the decades were best a stop down.

[Greytop]

Re: Tonight's Moon two different cameras

I always try to stop down a stop with any TC or combination. Even using 600mm lenses in my film shooting days I try to stop down one stop if I had the light to. All the fast telephotos I've used over the decades were best a stop down.

This is certainly also the case with the Tokina 300, it's useable wide open but the quality certainly steps up at f/4 and f/5.6.

[David M]

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Some fast telephotos can drop off dramatically at four stops down. They were designed to be shot wide open or a stop or two down so the designers weren't bothered how they performed at smaller stops.

[Ian]

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Alas it was hazy last night I did do some shots this time last year - I will see if I can dig them out...

Ian

[Ian]

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OK - from last year: Zuiko Digital 300mm f/2.8, with 1.4x EC-14 converter (425mm or 850mm FF equivalent), quite a sizeable crop. ISO 400, 1/500th, f/6.3, Olympus OM-D E-M5:



I think the high contrast details are very good but I think the more amorphous areas could be improved.

Ian

[Ian]

Re: Tonight's Moon two different cameras

Here's the same frame reprocessed for a larger file:



Ian

[Ian]

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Taken this evening with an Olympus Pen E-P5 and ZD 300 f/2.8 + EC-20 2x converter (1200mm equivalent FF focal length), ISO 200, f/6.3 1/400th.



There is much more detail in the plains and 'seas'. Quite pleased with this - my best yet

Ian

[Greytop]

Re: Tonight's Moon two different cameras

Here's the same frame reprocessed for a larger file:



Ian

That's a great shot Ian, the crater detail is fantastic

If your shot above is at 100% then comparison with my X-E1 with 300 + x1.4TC is a good illustration of the difference in reach between APS-C and m4/3rds.