Bonjour Apple

[Autumn]

I was uninstalling a program, when I noticed:

"Bonjour Apple Inc" Installed 300608



I didn't intentionally installed it and I don't know how it happened unless it attached itself to an I Tunes update.

What is it and do I need it?

To my knowledge, I am not using it.

I was, in fact, uninstalling "Safari". I don't know how that got there either.

[paul.r.w]

Re: Bonjour Apple

It's apples little spyware program. It's needed for some apple software to work properly.

[Autumn]

Re: Bonjour Apple

Thanks, so do I need it for ITunes to work properly?

[Stephen]

Re: Bonjour Apple

Thanks, so do I need it for ITunes to work properly?

Audrey, Safari is the Apple browser of choice, just like IE7 is for MS Windows. It may therefore have come when you installed Safari and may disappear if you uninstall it. However it could be something to do with iTunes. TBH I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, its probably a very small program which lets Apple know if your programs need updating, quite benign in all probability

[JSR]

Re: Bonjour Apple

I was uninstalling a program, when I noticed:

"Bonjour Apple Inc" Installed 300608



I didn't intentionally installed it and I don't know how it happened unless it attached itself to an I Tunes update.

What is it and do I need it?

To my knowledge, I am not using it.

I was, in fact, uninstalling "Safari". I don't know how that got there either.

Safari was pushed on unsuspecting people awhile back when it started to be downloaded with any update patch for Apple's software. Unless you physically uncheck the box in the "update software" box, you get Safari whether you want it or not.

A lot of people have complained about it, which led to Apple changing the way the update software box is displayed, but you'll still end up with it if you're a little unwary. I think that there is so much competition for browsers that Apple had to resort to sneaky tricks to get Safari onto people's machines so they could then claim it was popular due to "number of downloads".

I noticed the "Bonjour" programme just recently, too. My firewall caught it, so I investigated. A number of people have been complaining about this, too.

According to Apple's page at http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...orwindows.html, Bonjour is for -

Bonjour, also known as zero-configuration networking, enables automatic discovery of computers, devices, and services on IP networks. Bonjour uses industry standard IP protocols to allow devices to automatically discover each other without the need to enter IP addresses or configure DNS servers.

The only Apple software I have is iTunes and Quicktime. I see no reason why either of those pieces of software need to get involved with networking or discover other computers, devices, or services on IP networks. In fact, I believed I used a firewall to specifically prevent programmes that I don't allow from annoucing the presence of my computer or searching for other computers.

If other software did this, I'd consider it the act of a trojan.

Apparently, it's very difficult to get rid of Bonjour. The most popular action seems to be to disable it and then prevent it from running automatically when your computer starts. I've done this and haven't heard a peep out of it since. Doesn't seem to have affected anything.

I'm sure Apple will introduce something else next week to sneak onto our systems. They're becoming a dab hand at it.

[rogleale]

Re: Bonjour Apple

Hi Audrey,

The Bonjour service is also used by Adobe to link the components of their creative suite, but if you only use say, Photoshop and Bridge, it won't be necessary, and can be removed.
It is NOT an apple spyware!!

Roger

[JSR]

Re: Bonjour Apple

Hi Audrey,

The Bonjour service is also used by Adobe to link the components of their creative suite, but if you only use say, Photoshop and Bridge, it won't be necessary, and can be removed.
It is NOT an apple spyware!!

Roger

That's easy to say but when you've never used any of these pieces of Apple software that requires Bonjour, yet Bonjour ends up on your system and starts scanning your network - or whatever it's doing, it's not so easy to believe.

Maybe it's making a mountain out of a molehill but when someone sneaks software onto my system without telling me which then alerts my firewall when it starts sniffing about the network, I get concerned.

To not get concerned when this kind of thing happens is to invite trojans and viruses and end up with someone taking over your system. I'd rather be over-cautious than complacent.

[Autumn]

Re: Bonjour Apple

Well, haven't I opened a can of worms? I do use CS3. I will have to sleep on what I intend to to with Bonjour. Probably nothing, as I only found it by accident. If I start having any problems with it, I will think again.

Thanks all for your input.

[paul.r.w]

Re: Bonjour Apple

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour_(software)

I still don't like software that installs itself without specific permission.

[JSR]

Re: Bonjour Apple

Just browsing through my system and I notice another unsolicited Apple program.

Just what on Earth is "MobileMe"? I've never heard of it, don't want it, never accepted it, but like Bonjour before it, Apple dumps it on my system without asking.

Are we meant to spend our entire lives trawling our systems to see what else Apple has dumped on us without permission?

[Horacio]

Re: Bonjour Apple

I believe that it is the Leopard OS equivalent to the Tiger "iMac"
Check at apple

[rogleale]

[JSR]

Re: Bonjour Apple

I believe that it is the Leopard OS equivalent to the Tiger "iMac"
Check at apple

Except that some of us don't have CS3, Leopard OS, or whatever "Version Cue" is, or any other junk belonging to Apple. I just have iTunes out of necessity due to having an iPod. Some time ago I put up with being forced to have QuickTime clogging the system. Then Apple tried to force Safari on us. Then Bonjour was sneaked onto the system - yes, it is sneaked on.

At no time was I asked permission to install Bonjour. At no time was I told that Bonjour would be installed. At no time was I told what it was. Yet, it was put on my system - in my mind, that's "sneaking" it on.

And, last night, as I say, I browsed my system and found yet another Apple app sneaked on in the guise of "MobileMe". I've no idea what that is. Again, I was not asked permission to install it, not told that it would be installed, and not told what it is. It's been sneaked onto my system.

How many other apps has Apple sneaked onto my computer in the background that I haven't stumbled across yet?

It's fine enough to say "it's been widely discussed on Apple forums" but I don't frequent Apple forums. I have a Windows PC, why on Earth would I be frequenting Apple forums?

It's fine enough to say "check at Apple", but I didn't know these things were on my system until I stumbled across them - in Bonjour's case, when it started scanning my network and alerting my Firewall and, in MobileMe's case, when I accidentally noticed it in the Control Panel. If I'd been asked for permission and I knew they were being installed, I would have "checked at Apple" to satisfy myself what they are.

Now that I've found them, and I know I don't want them, I can't even uninstall this "MobileMe" nonsense. It's there and I'm stuck with it.

Ignorance is not bliss when unknown software is sneaked onto your system. There's enough clutter that ends up slowing the average computer down without Apple covertly sneaking more on in the background. If I had an Apple computer, I would probably expect Apple software and aps to appear but I don't. I have an iPod so I have to use iTunes, but that's the limit of my interest in Apple's software and hardware.

[Patrick]

Re: Bonjour Apple

Except that some of us don't have CS3, Leopard OS, or whatever "Version Cue" is, or any other junk belonging to Apple. I just have iTunes out of necessity due to having an iPod. Some time ago I put up with being forced to have QuickTime clogging the system. Then Apple tried to force Safari on us. Then Bonjour was sneaked onto the system - yes, it is sneaked on.

At no time was I asked permission to install Bonjour. At no time was I told that Bonjour would be installed. At no time was I told what it was. Yet, it was put on my system - in my mind, that's "sneaking" it on.

And, last night, as I say, I browsed my system and found yet another Apple app sneaked on in the guise of "MobileMe". I've no idea what that is. Again, I was not asked permission to install it, not told that it would be installed, and not told what it is. It's been sneaked onto my system.

How many other apps has Apple sneaked onto my computer in the background that I haven't stumbled across yet?

It's fine enough to say "it's been widely discussed on Apple forums" but I don't frequent Apple forums. I have a Windows PC, why on Earth would I be frequenting Apple forums?

It's fine enough to say "check at Apple", but I didn't know these things were on my system until I stumbled across them - in Bonjour's case, when it started scanning my network and alerting my Firewall and, in MobileMe's case, when I accidentally noticed it in the Control Panel. If I'd been asked for permission and I knew they were being installed, I would have "checked at Apple" to satisfy myself what they are.

Now that I've found them, and I know I don't want them, I can't even uninstall this "MobileMe" nonsense. It's there and I'm stuck with it.

Ignorance is not bliss when unknown software is sneaked onto your system. There's enough clutter that ends up slowing the average computer down without Apple covertly sneaking more on in the background. If I had an Apple computer, I would probably expect Apple software and aps to appear but I don't. I have an iPod so I have to use iTunes, but that's the limit of my interest in Apple's software and hardware.

I'm with you on this, since following the thread I have from Control Panel un-intalled Bonjour, I suppose next time iTunes is updated it will appear again.
I can't find a way to get rid of MobileMe.

It makes you wonder the junk Microsoft sneak on our computers as well that we can well do without, not to mention all the other software companies.

Patrick

[rogleale]

Re: Bonjour Apple

Wow! Calm down JSR - someones dares to disagree with you!! Definitely a touch of the "Green Ink from Tunbridge Wells" in your post.

Roger