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  • Another Kingfisher

    I believe this is also a Kingfisher ?

    Also Shot with the Canon S2 IS on a overcast day,

    I Really struggled to get the camera to Focus ?


    Please give some comments on this one ?

    Thank You
    Lou

    Lou
    Canon S2 IS, Canon 400d Sigma 18mm - 200mm

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    Re: Another Kingfisher

    Originally posted by lourensb View Post
    I believe this is also a Kingfisher ?

    Also Shot with the Canon S2 IS on a overcast day,

    I Really struggled to get the camera to Focus ?


    Please give some comments on this one ?

    Thank You
    Lou
    Sorry to be a bit tough on you this time - I almost mentioned it after your selection of shots yesterday, but contrary to Stephen who said that your pictures were well exposed, I have to say I think they are on the over-exposed side slightly. Maybe only a third to half a stop, but they are a bit washed out to me. It's the same with the kingfisher.

    There is some fringeing with your kingfisher too and the small sensor of your Canon Powershot S2IS means the background isn't blurred enough. A DSLR would have produced a better result with a reasonable lens.

    But don't let me put you off - you're putting a lot of effort into your pictures and this will undoubtedly pay dividends!

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    • #3
      Re: Another Kingfisher

      I have to agree with Ian about the exposure (white patches washed out, dark patches not dense enough), but otherwise I find this a very striking pictue. I like the way the lines of stick, body and beak fit together, and he stands out boldly from the background. A little denser and it would be more pleasing to the eye and (I think) would enrich the colours a bit more.

      I had no idea how big a kingfisher's beak is compared to the rest of his body.

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      • #4
        Re: Another Kingfisher

        Thanks for the comments Guys,

        This is Why it was posted, to get this critique, so even if its the worst picture in the Worlds eyes, so be it.

        Ian, This might sound a bit silly, " My Biggest Dream at this stage would be to get an DSLR" its just not possible for me at all, and I don't have a framework like parents giving me some spare cash....

        Although one day when I'm a big boy, I will have a DSLR, and that would make things a lot Different...

        I really love Photography, But am no Pro Yet, however I can try and make the most of what I have available, and with your Comments, I can just get Better.

        Thanks for the Critique,
        Lou
        Canon S2 IS, Canon 400d Sigma 18mm - 200mm

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        • #5
          Re: Another Kingfisher

          Originally posted by Ian View Post
          I have to say I think they are on the over-exposed side slightly. Maybe only a third to half a stop, but they are a bit washed out to me. It's the same with the kingfisher.

          There is some fringeing with your kingfisher too and the small sensor of your Canon Powershot S2IS means the background isn't blurred enough. A DSLR would have produced a better result with a reasonable lens.

          But don't let me put you off - you're putting a lot of effort into your pictures and this will undoubtedly pay dividends!

          Ian
          I went back and had a look at all the Shots at the kingfisher, and noticed that all of them where over exposed, The problem I have, is you cant really tell in the viewfinder of LCD Screen whilst taking the shot,

          I read Somewhere Something about Bracketing, where it takes 3 shots, maybe I should see if My cam can do that, and Try it out.

          I assume its better to under Expose a little, than to Over Expose ?

          Is this correct ?

          Please tell me what the Term "fringeing" means.

          Thank You
          Lou
          Canon S2 IS, Canon 400d Sigma 18mm - 200mm

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          • #6
            Re: Another Kingfisher

            Originally posted by lourensb View Post
            I went back and had a look at all the Shots at the kingfisher, and noticed that all of them where over exposed, The problem I have, is you cant really tell in the viewfinder of LCD Screen whilst taking the shot,

            I read Somewhere Something about Bracketing, where it takes 3 shots, maybe I should see if My cam can do that, and Try it out.

            I assume its better to under Expose a little, than to Over Expose ?

            Is this correct ?

            Please tell me what the Term "fringeing" means.

            Thank You
            This may be a good idea, however also see if your camera has any different sort of metering, like spot or centre weighted. The problem maybe that currently you have the average/matrix metering set and it maybe can't cope too well with this particular subject.

            As for fringeing, if you look closely round the edge of the bird and the branch you will see a sort of wavy line fringe to the image. This can be caused by over compressing the jpeg image or over sharpening. Sometimes also you can get purple or blue fringing in high contrast areas. this is known as chromatic aberation (CA). I don't really see this in the Kingfisher image though
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              Re: Another Kingfisher

              Originally posted by Stephen View Post
              This may be a good idea, however also see if your camera has any different sort of metering, like spot or centre weighted. The problem maybe that currently you have the average/matrix metering set and it maybe can't cope too well with this particular subject.

              As for fringeing, if you look closely round the edge of the bird and the branch you will see a sort of wavy line fringe to the image. This can be caused by over compressing the jpeg image or over sharpening. Sometimes also you can get purple or blue fringing in high contrast areas. this is known as chromatic aberation (CA). I don't really see this in the Kingfisher image though
              The Camera has 3 metering modes I think, but I don't know when to use what ?
              :-( , I think I can actualy see what Ian is Talking about, on the back, and by the tummy ? Could this be Caused by a Digial Zoom ? Because As far as I remember, I have used the Digital Zoom, I know this is a no no, but There where Just no other Choice at the Time ?
              Lou
              Canon S2 IS, Canon 400d Sigma 18mm - 200mm

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              • #8
                Re: Another Kingfisher

                Originally posted by lourensb View Post
                The Camera has 3 metering modes I think, but I don't know when to use what ?
                :-( , I think I can actualy see what Ian is Talking about, on the back, and by the tummy ? Could this be Caused by a Digial Zoom ? Because As far as I remember, I have used the Digital Zoom, I know this is a no no, but There where Just no other Choice at the Time ?
                The use of the digital zoom could be the cause IMO. Its effectively simply magnifying the max optical zoom image of your camera. It could also be the cause of the slightly soft nature of the larger image we see in your gallery which you never posted on the forum. Its better to switch it off IMO and if you must, crop the image later in the software in order to pull in the subject. Even this though will emphasise any loss of detail, poor focusing etc in the original image.
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                • #9
                  Re: Another Kingfisher

                  Stunning .... I'd be happy just to see a kingfisher !! ..... and to actually photograph one too .... :-)

                  Jay
                  Canon 7D, Canon 40D, + lots of bits

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                  • #10
                    Re: Another Kingfisher

                    I was sure I could see purple fringing in this image so have run it through a little programme that filters it. I'm quite surprised at the result. Its now cleaner and sharper. Just add a touch of contrast and you have a really fine shot.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Another Kingfisher

                      Originally posted by lumix View Post
                      I was sure I could see purple fringing in this image so have run it through a little programme that filters it. I'm quite surprised at the result. Its now cleaner and sharper. Just add a touch of contrast and you have a really fine shot.
                      Lumix, please post that "manipulated" pic, I would love to see the Difference ?

                      Thank You
                      Lou
                      Lou
                      Canon S2 IS, Canon 400d Sigma 18mm - 200mm

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                      • #12
                        Re: Another Kingfisher

                        Originally posted by lourensb View Post
                        I believe this is also a Kingfisher ?

                        Also Shot with the Canon S2 IS on a overcast day,

                        I Really struggled to get the camera to Focus ?


                        Please give some comments on this one ?

                        Thank You
                        Lou
                        I think it is a super record of a kingfisher. OK the quality isnt brilliant, but the composition is good. As the others have said, turn the digital zoom off. You will get a much better picture, as digital zoom, will zoom into the pixels, and ruin the image. Always use software to crop after the picture has been taken, you will get a much better result.

                        I usuall tend to slightly under expose, as over exposing can lose the image altegether on the blown out areas.

                        Keep em coming Lou!

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                        • #13
                          Re: Another Kingfisher

                          Originally posted by lourensb View Post
                          Lumix, please post that "manipulated" pic, I would love to see the Difference ?

                          Thank You
                          Lou
                          Your wish is my comand


                          Only had the small in thread version to work on so there is still possibly a bit more to squeeze from this image.

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