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I tend to disagree with that slightly. Shooting in color is better for colorfull shots, but it loses on transformation on B&W. It is better for me to shoot initially in B&W if you want to have a B&W photo. I agree that apart from your preference to B&W there are other family members or relatives that like the color shots and indeed this is a good reason to shoot in color.
Though as I said for B&W photos I think it is better to use the camera's B&W mode that transform it to B&W afterwards in an image editor.
Here is an example of full size crops:
Regards
George
Interesting comparison. Did you use any filtering when you converted the colour to B&W? My editor allows you to apply colour filters just like the old film days and you sure get some impressive results doing it that way.
re the B&W thing - I think George is right to an extent but I have got a feeling that you can do things in PS that can actually overcome the loss of definition that a simple conversion to grey scale produces. I am reading a book on PS elements and as far as I can make out it has something to do with separating the colour channels and tweaking each independently and then putting them together again - bit of a long way round of doing it but I suppose its worth the effort if you want good quality B&W and good quality colour
sue
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Interesting comparison. Did you use any filtering when you converted the colour to B&W? My editor allows you to apply colour filters just like the old film days and you sure get some impressive results doing it that way.
Hi lumix,
No, I didn't use any filtering when converting from color to B&W just because I want it to see how is the plain conversion. Besides that, anything applied other than the plain conversion would be post-processing which was not my intention and which is not a fair conversion of the original and also not fair to how the camera's B&W mode works in comparison of the B&W mode of an image editor.
Another thing that I observed is that the conversion of a color image into B&W in an image editor is not 100% pure B&W but it has a very slight tone difference compared to the B&W produced by the camera.
No, I didn't use any filtering when converting from color to B&W just because I want it to see how is the plain conversion. Besides that, anything applied other than the plain conversion would be post-processing which was not my intention and which is not a fair conversion of the original and also not fair to how the camera's B&W mode works in comparison of the B&W mode of an image editor.
Another thing that I observed is that the conversion of a color image into B&W in an image editor is not 100% pure B&W but it has a very slight tone difference compared to the B&W produced by the camera.
Regards
George
That's something I have noticed as well. Put that down to cheap software. What I like about converting from colour with filters is that you can create old film types. Also depending on the content I can emulate how a B&W would have looked with the use of yellow, green, or even orange filters. I would miss that if I only had a B&W image out of camera.
That's something I have noticed as well. Put that down to cheap software. What I like about converting from colour with filters is that you can create old film types. Also depending on the content I can emulate how a B&W would have looked with the use of yellow, green, or even orange filters. I would miss that if I only had a B&W image out of camera.
Everything is a matter of preference and usability of course. I do the same. I take color shots and turn them to B&W if there is a need or a like to. I also took straight B&W shots with the camera, but they were few.
Though, strictly speaking if someone really likes the B&W photos and wants maximum efficiency out of them, it is better in my opinion to shoot in camera's B&W mode from the start, than converting a color shot to mono later in an image editor.
I tend to disagree with that slightly. Shooting in color is better for colorfull shots, but it loses on transformation on B&W. It is better for me to shoot initially in B&W if you want to have a B&W photo. I agree that apart from your preference to B&W there are other family members or relatives that like the color shots and indeed this is a good reason to shoot in color.
Though as I said for B&W photos I think it is better to use the camera's B&W mode that transform it to B&W afterwards in an image editor.
Here is an example of full size crops:
Regards
George
Hmmm......not sure about that George, surely it depends on several factors, not least of which, the method of conversion to black and white.
Surely, by the very method of taking a picture in mono straight from the camera, the information recorded is less than that in colour.
I always advise to take a picture in colour, and convert after in Photoshop (or similar) I personally use the channel mixer method.
Hi,
Here is an image that has been converted from color to mono and also given a slight blue split tone, the image was taken from a concrete ramp at the edge of the beach.
Hi Tinka,
I prefer the B&W as you can still distinguish sea from sand, which to me isn't quite so obvious in the blue tint. Personally I prefer seascapes in colour, but when converted, with channel mixer tweak method being the best, they can be quite dramatic! I would've got closer to the fisherman/woman personally, focusing inshore more from left!
Hi Jocelyn,
Thank you for looking, and for your critique, I would have loved to have taken the image more from the left, but as I said previously in the thread, there were a lot of people to the left of me and they were rather roudy "in a nice way" with lots of children running round, and I never take my camera on the beach, so I really did lose out on this occasion.
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