Milk crates

[Stephen]

This is a before and after picture. The first version is pretty much the unadjusted image, but I felt it lacked something. The picture was taken at a farm dairy. Its a building of Yorkshire Gritstone, yet the photo somehow did not give the feel for the place that I would have liked

The second version was after processing, which was all done in Lightroom though the frame was added in Photoshop. I think the feel of the shot is now more how I would like. Now I know there are going to be some on this forum who don't like it, but I'd be interested to hear their comments

[Patrick]

Re: Milk crates

This is a before and after picture. The first version is pretty much the unadjusted image, but I felt it lacked something. The picture was taken at a farm dairy. Its a building of Yorkshire Gritstone, yet the photo somehow did not give the feel for the place that I would have liked

The second version was after processing, which was all done in Lightroom though the frame was added in Photoshop. I think the feel of the shot is now more how I would like. Now I know there are going to be some on this forum who don't like it, but I'd be interested to hear their comments

Hi Stephen

The first version is bland and lifeless and looses that Yorkshire feel we expect , the manipulated version captures that feeling admirably.

I travel round Yorkshire a lot and love the old stone buildings.

Yes it works well.

Patrick

[Stephen]

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Hi Stephen

The first version is bland and lifeless and looses that Yorkshire feel we expect , the manipulated version captures that feeling admirably.

I travel round Yorkshire a lot and love the old stone buildings.

Yes it works well.

Patrick

Thanks Patrick, these were my feelings. I'm trying to show also that a little post processing can make a picture and give it a feel that the camera can't always achieve

[JonMikal]

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i agree with the comments regarding the first image and the last is a bit over-processed for my liking. not sure what you saw here that even drew your interest (must be a Yorkshire thing).

[Patrick]

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Thanks Patrick, these were my feelings. I'm trying to show also that a little post processing can make a picture and give it a feel that the camera can't always achieve

With me you are preaching to the converted, I firmly believe pressing the shutter button is only the start. When I hear the words "thats the way it was"
I shudder, the camera gives a cold version of the scene, it can't feel, smell or hear it just copies whats in front of it. Its down to the photographer to put that extra there with sympathetic post processing.
Now someone is going to say the print or image on the screen cant feel, smell or hear and its true, its down to us to find a way to express it with tone, colour/mono, light and shade, just as an artist will with paint.

I used to attempt it in the darkroom, now I use editing software the aim remains unchanged. It can be frustrating trying to do it but when it happens its magic.

Patrick

[Patrick]

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i agree with the comments regarding the first image and the last is a bit over-processed for my liking. not sure what you saw here that even drew your interest (must be a Yorkshire thing).

Have you visited Yorkshire? (I'm a Lancashire lad myself) but spend a lot of time in and around the county, the second version captures the feel and essence of the old parts of Leeds, Bradford, Halifax any of the old wool towns.
Over processed no!! its strong processing to represent a strong enviroment.

Patrick

[Jocelyn Walker]

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Stephen I prefer the 2nd version as it really emphasizes the texture of the overall subject, however i feel that if the crates had been moved slightly to be square on to the camera, the lines would have married up with that of the doorway! Vertical lines alignment!

[JonMikal]

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Have you visited Yorkshire? (I'm a Lancashire lad myself) but spend a lot of time in and around the county, the second version captures the feel and essence of the old parts of Leeds, Bradford, Halifax any of the old wool towns.
Over processed no!! its strong processing to represent a strong enviroment.

Patrick

thanks for the lesson in environment Patrick.

[Stephen]

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Stephen I prefer the 2nd version as it really emphasizes the texture of the overall subject, however i feel that if the crates had been moved slightly to be square on to the camera, the lines would have married up with that of the doorway! Vertical lines alignment!

Ah but you see I think that is part of the charm of the image Jocelyn There is a tension between the lines of the door, wall etc and the crates, and this would be lost had they been level. Just my feeling anyway but I'm not going to be dogmatic about it

[Martin]

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Hi Stephen
You certainly have the knack of making something out of nothing. Your treatment has certainly brought out the character of the stonework- It is typical of many of the buildings in Yorkshire although many have been cleaned by sandblasting over recent years. I think maybe I do prefer them with a bit of muck and grime.

Martin

[Unregistered]

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[QUOTE=Stephen;29339]This is a before and after picture. The first version is pretty much the unadjusted image, but I felt it lacked something. The picture was taken at a farm dairy. Its a building of Yorkshire Gritstone, yet the photo somehow did not give the feel for the place that I would have liked

The second version was after processing, which was all done in Lightroom though the frame was added in Photoshop. I think the feel of the shot is now more how I would like. Now I know there are going to be some on this forum who don't like it, but I'd be interested to hear their comments

A poor image by your standards, cropped off the bottom of the crates, modern plastic crates and old buildings, the buildings and crates do not sit well together, therefore the timelessness or feel of the "Yorkshire Grit" is destroyed by the moderness of the crates.

[StuartR]

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The first image is a straight record shot and I reckon wouldn't normally get a second glance - unless you are a milk bottle / crate connoisseur that is .

The second image caught my attention more and it seemed worthwhile taking a longer look (I always look at the pictures on these posts before I read the words). As Stephen knows, I'm not a great lover of vignetting but it does the trick here and concentrates the viewer's attention on the centre of the image.

As a soft southerner I naturally assume dirty grimy bricks come from somewhere north of Watford - you were also lucky that the smog lifted long enough to take the photo

[Patrick]

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A poor image by your standards, cropped off the bottom of the crates, modern plastic crates and old buildings, the buildings and crates do not sit well together, therefore the timelessness or feel of the "Yorkshire Grit" is destroyed by the moderness of the crates.

Can't agree with these comments, Yorkshire doesn't live in the past but has a modern aspect as well, this picture shows the old heritage with the modern add-ons.
How does the moderness of the clean crisp crates detract from the grit of the old stone weathered building so grimy and full of character. The one highlights the other in my opinion.
The picture has plenty to say.

Patrick

[Pops]

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IMO this is a superb example of processing skills. The actual content is not something I can get excited about.

[Stephen]

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This is a before and after picture. The first version is pretty much the unadjusted image, but I felt it lacked something. The picture was taken at a farm dairy. Its a building of Yorkshire Gritstone, yet the photo somehow did not give the feel for the place that I would have liked

The second version was after processing, which was all done in Lightroom though the frame was added in Photoshop. I think the feel of the shot is now more how I would like. Now I know there are going to be some on this forum who don't like it, but I'd be interested to hear their comments

A poor image by your standards, cropped off the bottom of the crates, modern plastic crates and old buildings, the buildings and crates do not sit well together, therefore the timelessness or feel of the "Yorkshire Grit" is destroyed by the moderness of the crates.

I think you miss the point of showing the shot my unregistered friend. I'm also not sure how cropping the bottom of the crates is detrimental to the image, though if you think so then fair enough. I also do not understand why you feel the 'modern' crates and the building don't go well together, but hey ho, I appreciate your thoughts on this.

I do feel though that the point of the image and the comparison was to show how the feel of an image can be changed by the processing. It was nothing to do with making it timeless. This was a working dairy, you see what was there, and I have added personal input to it in the processing that is giving more impact. I'd hope you would agree with that