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**lumix** · 17-06-07, 09:30 PM

Re: realy need help

Originally posted by fluffy penguin View Post

I always look at other peoples sunsets with envy

we had a beauty the other night and rushed out and this is all I got.
this does not look anywhere as good as what I saw..

would appreciate advise thank you

FP could you post a larger version and include the exif data please. Without this information it is pure guess work to say what went wrong.

**fluffy penguin** · 17-06-07, 09:42 PM

Re: realy need help

will do larger version but everytime I resize the photo edit thing strips the exif

**fluffy penguin** · 17-06-07, 09:44 PM

Re: realy need help larger version

**fluffy penguin** · 17-06-07, 09:47 PM

the exif copied across

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Image Description = OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA
Make = OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP.
Model = E-400
Orientation = top/left
X Resolution = 314
Y Resolution = 314
Resolution Unit = inch
Software = Version 1.1
Date Time = 2007-06-16 21:28:07
YCbCr Positioning = co-sited
Exif IFD Pointer = Offset: 290
PrintIM Data = 528 Byte

[Camera]
Exposure Time = 1/80"
F Number = F4
Exposure Program = Creative program
ISO Speed Ratings = 200
Exif Version = 0221
Date Time Original = 2007-06-16 21:28:07
Date Time Digitized = 2007-06-16 21:28:07
Components Configuration = YCbCr
Exposure Bias Value = -0.7EV
Max Aperture Value = F3.5
Metering Mode = Pattern
Light Source = Cloudy weather
Flash = Flash did not fire, auto mode
Focal Length = 65mm
Maker Note = 2354 Byte
User Comment =
Flashpix Version = 0100
Color Space = sRGB
Exif Image Width = 3648
Exif Image Height = 2736
Interoperability IFD Pointer = Offset: 758
File Source = DSC
Custom Rendered = Normal process
Exposure Mode = Manual exposure
White Balance = Manual white balance
Digital Zoom Ratio = 1x
Scene Capture Type = Normal
Gain Control = Low gain up
Contrast = Normal
Saturation = High saturation
Sharpness = Normal

[Interoperability]
Interoperability Index = R98
Interoperability Version = 0100

[Thumbnail]
Compression = JPEG Compressed (Thumbnail)
X Resolution = 72
Y Resolution = 72
Resolution Unit = inch
JPEG Interchange Format = Offset: 13140
JPEG Interchange Format Length = Length: 3438

[Maker Note]
JPEG Quality = Super High Quality
Macro = Normal
0203 = 0
100F = 0
1017 = 662 64
1018 = 280 64
1029 = 1
102A = 0
102C = 0 0
102D = 0
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**lumix** · 17-06-07, 09:52 PM

Re: realy need help

Originally posted by fluffy penguin View Post

will do larger version but everytime I resize the photo edit thing strips the exif

Have you got Easy-thumbnails? If not download it and use it to re-size your images. This program dose a very good job and will leave the exif data intact. Or you could just tell us what camera settings you were using. I'm only guessing but it looks like you used auto exposure and auto white balance. have I guessed right.
Go here to get easy-thumbnails. http://www.fookes.com/ezthumbs/
Ps You beat me to it. just seen you post.

**fluffy penguin** · 17-06-07, 09:54 PM

Re: realy need help

Originally posted by lumix View Post

Have you got Easy-thumbnails? If not download it and use it to re-size your images. This program dose a very good job and will leave the exif data intact. Or you could just tell us what camera settings you were using. I'm only guessing but it looks like you used auto exposure and auto white balance. have I guessed right.
Go here to get easy-thumbnails. http://www.fookes.com/ezthumbs/

yes I did I think

I put it on auto something as I have not got my head round manual setting yet

**lumix** · 17-06-07, 10:14 PM

Re: realy need help

Ok I guessed wrong.

You data shows manual white balance. How did you set this. For sunsets use daylight setting. This will stop the camera from trying to correct for the amount of red in the image. Exposure wise I always bracket my exposers as the camera often gets fooled by this type of lighting. Take five shots of each scene. ie first at the exposure indicated by you camera then another half a stop over and another one a full stop over, then go the other way half stop under and one full stop under. Works for me, hope it works for you.
Also noticed that you have high saturation selected. I would put that back to normal.

**fluffy penguin** · 17-06-07, 11:06 PM

Re: realy need help

I used the thing the camera suggested. when we get another will try again.
thank you for your advise