Ice Flows

[Stephen]

There is something I rather like about this image. Does it do anything for you?

[lumix]

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There is something I rather like about this image. Does it do anything for you?

I know I'm a funny old whatsit but I can't help feel that there are two very good images fighting for attention here. I cut the image in half and the top half it a nice image. The bottom half is an even better image. I guess it's something that once seen it's hard to get it out of your mind. As a whole there doesn't seem to be anything to lead my eye through the picture. Told you there was something strange about me, but that's how I see it. May have looked better as a landscape.
Just had a second look and it's the lighter strip of water that is cutting the image in half.

[Ian]

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I know I'm a funny old whatsit but I can't help feel that there are two very good images fighting for attention here. I cut the image in half and the top half it a nice image. The bottom half is an even better image. I guess it's something that once seen it's hard to get it out of your mind. As a whole there doesn't seem to be anything to lead my eye through the picture. Told you there was something strange about me, but that's how I see it. May have looked better as a landscape.
Just had a second look and it's the lighter strip of water that is cutting the image in half.

Hi Ron,

I certainly see what you mean. I'm viewing on Julia's computer at the moment and its screen is 1440x900 and although this is quite generous, I can't get the whole image to be visible at the same time

I'll have another look on the big monitor at the office later - but in the mean time, Stephen might consider posting a slightly smaller version, say 640 tall?

Ian

[Jocelyn Walker]

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I don't know how one's eye can't be lead upwards from the amazing foreground to the top of pic by the reflections of the icebergs in near background! The 3/4 composition is great! I would love to see what effect mono would have Stephen. Perhaps too many nuances would be lost tho'! Fantastic shot....sets my teeth chattering just thinking how cold it must've been!

[Stephen]

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I know I'm a funny old whatsit but I can't help feel that there are two very good images fighting for attention here. I cut the image in half and the top half it a nice image. The bottom half is an even better image. I guess it's something that once seen it's hard to get it out of your mind. As a whole there doesn't seem to be anything to lead my eye through the picture. Told you there was something strange about me, but that's how I see it. May have looked better as a landscape.
Just had a second look and it's the lighter strip of water that is cutting the image in half.

I think you make a fair point Ron and I appreciate your point of view. I do actually have two separate images in my gallery of almost the top and bottom of this image.

However, I find myself, when looking for shots, to constantly be moving the camera, zooming in an out, and side to side till I see a pleasing composition. The portrait version seemed to work at the time.

I find it has great depth and is a peaceful and relaxing image. However I do take your point about the lighter patch of water

Jocelyn, I purposely didn't do a mono version, for the exact reasons you mention, the distant ice flow in particular has blue tones which would be lost. I'll admit there isn't a lot of colour in the image though

As for Ians request for a smaller version, here it is

Oh and many thanks to whoever gave it 10 Thumbs up in the gallery

[lumix]

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Ian has put his finger on it. When I opened your post the first thing I did was read your opening line and in doing so I could only see the top half of the image. Then I had to scroll down to see the bottom half and that cemented the two images in my mind. Now that you have posted a smaller version I agree with your feelings of great depth. I'll pop over to your gallery and add another 10/10.

[Stephen]

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Ian has put his finger on it. When I opened your post the first thing I did was read your opening line and in doing so I could only see the top half of the image. Then I had to scroll down to see the bottom half and that cemented the two images in my mind. Now that you have posted a smaller version I agree with your feelings of great depth. I'll pop over to your gallery and add another 10/10.

Thanks Ron, very kind of you.
The problem I suppose is that I make the picture 800px long and then the frame adds a bit more. Now I suspect that you like most others have a monitor which is 1024x768 so of course portrait images in particular can't all be seen without scrolling. My dilemma is that if I show a much shorter version, it loses impact and perceived quality.

[Pol]

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There is something I rather like about this image. Does it do anything for you?

It's a cracking shot just as it is imho. Fascinating (and excellent) huge range of 'icey' colour tones, water surfaces and ice at various stages of thawing.

The only other thing I'd wanna do with that is make a huge print for the wall.

Pol

[Tom]

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Sure there are potentially two images here but the combination of the two make for a brilliant composition imo. Having the ice at various stages of melting (melticity ) allows the eye to roam fron front to back and ending with the lovely misty trees. So I disagree with Lumix on not having anything to lead the eye in.
The colours are perfect; cold. There is silence here except for the faint sound of the ice cracking and the bears in the wood. It all comes accross here.
My only crib here would be the tightness to the left edge of the ice in the middle section but this could be cured by extending the canvas a fraction and cloning in water.

[Stephen]

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Thanks Tom.
The tightness you refer to was compounded by a 1.4 degree CW rotation and subsequent crop. I feel inclined to leave it though Perhaps I should try a Transform > Distort and pull the right side down a bit.

[StuartR]

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Thanks Tom.
The tightness you refer to was compounded by a 1.4 degree CW rotation and subsequent crop. I feel inclined to leave it though Perhaps I should try a Transform > Distort and pull the right side down a bit.

Nice shot Stephen. I like it exactly as it is - it says one thing to me : cold

Interesting point about the rotation - I've been thinking about starting a thread on that. I find I have to rotate so many images to get things vertical / horizontal that, as you infer above, it can lead to them being cropped more tightly than perhaps one would have liked. I sometimes resort to cloning into the white space left by the rotation (normally quite easy to do with sky, grass or water) rather than crop.

I'm not sure if it's me or the camera. i.e., do I have a permanent list to starboard due to one leg being shorter than the other or is the camera's sensor ever-so-slightly misaligned? I have found that rotation is normally about 1.2 % or so and, being constant, I'm thinking mechanical rather than physical ?

Anyone else have similar problems I wonder?

[Ian]

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Nice shot Stephen. I like it exactly as it is - it says one thing to me : cold

Interesting point about the rotation - I've been thinking about starting a thread on that. I find I have to rotate so many images to get things vertical / horizontal that, as you infer above, it can lead to them being cropped more tightly than perhaps one would have liked. I sometimes resort to cloning into the white space left by the rotation (normally quite easy to do with sky, grass or water) rather than crop.

I'm not sure if it's me or the camera. i.e., do I have a permanent list to starboard due to one leg being shorter than the other or is the camera's sensor ever-so-slightly misaligned? I have found that rotation is normally about 1.2 % or so and, being constant, I'm thinking mechanical rather than physical ?

Anyone else have similar problems I wonder?

Haha! A lot of cameras pass through my hands and you'd be quite surprised to see how many are not level with the sensor.

Ian

[Stephen]

Re: Ice Flows

Nice shot Stephen. I like it exactly as it is - it says one thing to me : cold

Interesting point about the rotation - I've been thinking about starting a thread on that. I find I have to rotate so many images to get things vertical / horizontal that, as you infer above, it can lead to them being cropped more tightly than perhaps one would have liked. I sometimes resort to cloning into the white space left by the rotation (normally quite easy to do with sky, grass or water) rather than crop.

I'm not sure if it's me or the camera. i.e., do I have a permanent list to starboard due to one leg being shorter than the other or is the camera's sensor ever-so-slightly misaligned? I have found that rotation is normally about 1.2 % or so and, being constant, I'm thinking mechanical rather than physical ?

Anyone else have similar problems I wonder?

Thanks Stuart, in actual fact it really wasn't that cold, though I can see thats the feeling the photo creates.

You really should start that thread, cos I'd definately contribute

[StuartR]

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Hi Ron,

I certainly see what you mean. I'm viewing on Julia's computer at the moment and its screen is 1440x900 and although this is quite generous, I can't get the whole image to be visible at the same time

I'll have another look on the big monitor at the office later - but in the mean time, Stephen might consider posting a slightly smaller version, say 640 tall?

Ian

Aha 2 + 2 = 4 after all!

I had a reply from Julia on another thread that was signed "Ian" - I was wondering if you liked to be called Julia at the weekend or something but it's all clear now

Something I do when browsing this forum and other photography sites is to hit F11 (in IE) to get rid of the clutter and auto-hide the menu bar. This gives a nice clean screen and, quite often, means that pictures that are a little too large for the normal browser view are now viewable without scrolling. This is especially the case when browsers have been left at their default settings of large button icons with text labels, the "links" toolbar is turned on and the "address" input box is on it's own line. Less of an issue if running at a high resolution but it can make quite a difference on laptops running at "just" 1024 x 768.

[lumix]

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Haha! A lot of cameras pass through my hands and you'd be quite surprised to see how many are not level with the sensor.

Ian

That's interesting. I've never seen any mention of alignment in any reviews. I too have to correct my shots and always thought it was down to me not paying attention.