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    I have spent a little time this evening trying to work out adding borders in Paintshop 9 & stumbled across enhanced edges which made the whole pic change, but I liked the effect! Have you any suggestions where I could improve the borders or pic in general!
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    Jocelyn

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    Hi Jocelyn,
    I like it as it is. Well done.
    Alvar.

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    • #3
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      Thanks Alvar. I thought some people would think it was oversharpened or not like the graininess!
      Jocelyn

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by Jocelyn Walker View Post
        Thanks Alvar. I thought some people would think it was oversharpened or not like the graininess!
        I'm glad you mentioned that

        It does look grainy on my LCD monitor, but less so on the CRT.

        Have you tried using less sharpening? Another option would be to use a less intensive crop and so reduce the magnification of the grain.

        You certainly got the focus right.

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Jocelyn Walker View Post
          I have spent a little time this evening trying to work out adding borders in Paintshop 9 & stumbled across enhanced edges which made the whole pic change, but I liked the effect! Have you any suggestions where I could improve the borders or pic in general!
          Lovely capture of the bee Jocelyn. Perhaps a little too much sharpening for me and yes I like the border.
          Audrey

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          • #6
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            I like this particular border a lot - I wish my programme had an automatic one like it but I would have to make it and something as elaborate as this would take quite a bit of time using various steps in the Resize - Canvas route of commands and then making gradients in some of the fills etc. There are an infinite number of variations you use to make a border and what you like and dislike if really a matter of individual taste.

            One trick I use quite a lot is to eyedrop one of the dominant colours from within the photograph itself and the use it in the border either as a thin line sandwiched between white and black or greys or less often as the thick major part of the frame.
            "My own suspicion is that the universe is not only stranger than we suppose, but stranger than we can suppose."
            --John Haldane

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            • #7
              Re: Bee Focus

              Originally posted by Jocelyn Walker View Post
              I have spent a little time this evening trying to work out adding borders in Paintshop 9 & stumbled across enhanced edges which made the whole pic change, but I liked the effect! Have you any suggestions where I could improve the borders or pic in general!
              Jocelyn,

              When it comes to borders I think it is a matter of personal preference mostly.
              My personal opinion on borders is to use something simple and mostly darker in color, just for the photo not to look completely naked and be presented in a nice finesse way.

              Wide borders of very light colors do attract more attention (sometimes take away attention that should be given mostly to the photo) and sometimes are there to cover some photo deficiencies.

              Personally I would prefer a thinner darker border, but as I said that is mostly down to personal preference and to the way a photo is going to be used (public display, photo exhibition, photo competition, e.t.c).

              As far as your photo is concerned, while I do like the way you have captured the be, I think it has been much over sharpened to the extent that visible sharpening artifacts are very noticeable mostly on the flooded background.

              My own theory to the sharpening technique is that objects should appear in a photo slightly more sharpened of how they look in real life when it comes to smaller sizes for web display. In the full size shots, objects should appear with the same sharpening level as they eyes see them in real life.


              George

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              • #8
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                Because I knew no other way, I went the long way round by> add border>swatches>choose colour & pixel increment/size, from inner to outer limit, guestimating what colour for shadow etc. A long tedious method, but it was first time try! The original pic was definitely not so grainy!
                Jocelyn

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                • #9
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                  I have reworked the border & left unsharpened or edge enhanced! Is this any better?
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                  Jocelyn

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                  • #10
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                    Maybe just plain bee, no border, no sharpening, only levels, contrast etc!
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                    Jocelyn

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Jocelyn Walker View Post
                      I have reworked the border & left unsharpened or edge enhanced! Is this any better?
                      Jocelyn,

                      I think it is much better know in terms of sharpening artifacts.
                      I would say to punch up the colors and slightly the contrast (like in the initial photo posted) and add a tad of sharpening...but really a small amount.

                      I;m currently at work...if I have time later at home I will modify this 2nd version of your photo and post back a sample.

                      The frame is OK for me now. Actually I refer a slight frame just for the picture not to look naked around.


                      George

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                      • #12
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                        I like the second photograph (post #9) Jocelyn - the close up details on the wings and the hairs on its body are really very clear. As for the frame in the first one, sorry to say this after your hard work, but for me, I think the outer very dark edge detracts. I would like to see it with just the inner mid grey line on its own or perhaps both mid grey. But as has been said it's personal preference.

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