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  • #16
    Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

    Originally posted by Jim View Post
    Hi Audrey.
    Well! What can I say? For someone who had to watch a tutorial, I think you've done a stunning job!
    Don't you think that the pic looks more balanced now with the blue in the sky echoing the blue in the number plate and in the Chevrolet badge?

    My thoughts that follow are only my own thoughts, and what I would do to try to perfect the image. If you are happy with the pic, then I think it's good enough to print and hang on your wall. I don't think you're the type to get frightened by a silly little piece of computer software, but what I suggest will take some time and perhaps practice.

    Warning, Audrey! Make copies! Do not practice on your original image!

    The wheel of the car is perfect, it's just enough to stop the car looking as though it's floating. In fact, although it's difficult to see at these resolutions, I might copy, flip and paste the wheel over onto the other side. You would need to try that and then see what it looked like at full res. You aren't trying to make the car symmetrical, that would be unnatural, but just see what it looks like. I've just looked at the original and there is a wheel on the other side that was perfect. Did you darken that in this image?

    You've done a good job in cloning out the modern car, but in the pic that you've posted there's a little sharply defined rectangle. think you can get rid of that? There is also a blur just to the side of the headlamp where the back of the modern was that you need to heal out. Actually, the heal tool might be too difficult just there, you might need to use the clone stamp. There is also a funny little curly thing just above the wing of the car on that same side. What is that? maybe get rid of that while you're there.

    Now; The sky. What you've done has transformed the picture. (but there's always a but in life, isn't there? )
    Where did you get that sky? It looks a bit like one of the Photoshop patterns.
    It's OK, but for some reason just doesn't look natural.
    I think what might be confusing me is that this image is altogether darker than the original. Have you tried to increase the contrast, or something? I think I preferred the original, as you have no lost the little detail in the driver's face and the metallic sheen to his shirt. I would leave the little details in as they give much more to look at. (Unless you want to make an abstract, which is a subject for another day!)
    Back to the sky. Look through your other pics and try to find a nice blue sky. Are the clouds quite as soft and fuzzy as the clouds in this sky? If they look the same, then leave the sky. It's my monitor that is off. If you prefer another sky, copy and paste it into your picture.
    Can you see a little lip to the side of the roof of the car? I can see that you've built up the roof, and you've made a good job of it, but you've made it just a little high. Go in at a very close zoom and use a vary small brush to delete the top of the roof, get rid of the little lip on either side and the hard line that runs along the top.

    Looking at it again, I think try to get the brightness and contrast back to the original. The buildings on the right had a bit more "snap", his shirt and face I've mentioned, the bumper was shinier, and so on.

    All the above can be seen as hypercritical, but is what I think I would do. Break it down into little jobs and stop after each one, look at what you've done and see if you're happy with it. Don't try to do it all in one go, 'cos when you've finished and you don't like it, you may not know which bit you don't like!

    And remember what the art teacher told us. The hard part of *any* work is knowing when to stop!
    Jim


    LOL

    You have really thrown me now. I NEVER look at a picture that closely. Perhaps I should.

    What I REALLY, REALLY, NEED, is me to watch you doing all you are telling me to do!

    Yes, it is the PS sky. Sometimes I do put the healing brush over it and it looks a bit different.

    I am not very good with layers. I do it in layers and then when I want to put my name on it, it talks about rasterizing it - I say "Yes" and all the layers appear to vanish!

    Thanks so much for your input. I am going to print it and one day I may have another go. (Unless you want to, on the original)

    As for more contrast here and there, I haven't a clue how I did it.
    Audrey

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    • #17
      Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

      Put the original somewhere we can download and make a competition for all the pixel peepers to have a go. You can be the judge and decide who does the best job.
      That way you get your Photoshopping done for you, we have some fun and Stephen gets rid of his dodgy filter 'cos he can put that up for first prize.
      Unless he wins, of course. If so, I'm sure I've got something useless to award him.
      Jim

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      • #18
        Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

        Originally posted by Jim View Post
        Put the original somewhere we can download and make a competition for all the pixel peepers to have a go. You can be the judge and decide who does the best job.
        That way you get your Photoshopping done for you, we have some fun and Stephen gets rid of his dodgy filter 'cos he can put that up for first prize.
        Unless he wins, of course. If so, I'm sure I've got something useless to award him.
        Jim
        Sounds like a good plan Jim. Come on Audrey, if you haven't got access to any webspace, send it to me and I'll put it somewhere for you.

        Jim I'm happy to offer that filter as a prize, though you need to have a lens with a 77mm thread to take full advantage of its dubious quality BTW still waiting for yours.
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        • #19
          Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

          I had already started to do Jim's suggestions. I will carry on as he suggested, but I will also send it to Stephen, just as it came out of the camera. It's a JPG.

          It will be interesting to see what people come up with.

          I remember once before Stephen started a thread (with a title you couldn't resist peeping into) called:

          PLAY WITH ME

          ... ... and we did the same thing, but there were no prizes.
          Audrey

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          • #20
            Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

            Originally posted by Autumn View Post
            LOL

            I am not very good with layers. I do it in layers and then when I want to put my name on it, it talks about rasterizing it - I say "Yes" and all the layers appear to vanish!

            I have just thought If I saved it in psd, I could then add the frame and the title and my name afterwards and then save again with a different title.
            I would then be able to go back to my psd picture. Why didn't I think of that before. This is what comes of being self taught. I am a big believer in formal training initially. It saves time in the end.
            Audrey

            https://www.flickr.com/photos/autumn36/

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            • #21
              Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

              Originally posted by Jim View Post
              Put the original somewhere we can download and make a competition for all the pixel peepers to have a go. You can be the judge and decide who does the best job.
              That way you get your Photoshopping done for you, we have some fun and Stephen gets rid of his dodgy filter 'cos he can put that up for first prize.
              Unless he wins, of course. If so, I'm sure I've got something useless to award him.
              Jim
              I've started a new thread here http://dpnow.com/forum2/showthread.p...4506#post14506 for anyone who fancies a go with the full sized photo of the Chevvy
              Stephen

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              • #22
                Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

                Originally posted by Stephen View Post
                Jim I'm happy to offer that filter as a prize, though you need to have a lens with a 77mm thread to take full advantage of its dubious quality BTW still waiting for yours.
                Just you wait until *you* retire and don't have time for anything!
                I had my plan worked out for today. Into Taunton, call at LCE and pick up the adapter for my right-angle viewfinder, drop your filters into the post office, scan the photo mags at Smith's, have a coffee at Umm where shall I go today... Starbuck's or Costa?, back home, out for a walk, decide what we're drinking with dinner tonight, put it in the fridge, You know, life goes on.
                First my son in law brought up 3 cows to eat the grass in the orchard, they got away from him and got into a 100 acre field of wheat so we spent an hour chasing them, then the Great She Elephant remembered that I had an appointment with the nurse, then I got back from that and she decided that we were going to Tarr Steps for a day out and I've only just got back from that!

                Filters in the post tomorrow, then!

                Jim

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                • #23
                  Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

                  Originally posted by Autumn View Post
                  LOL



                  What I REALLY, REALLY, NEED, is me to watch you doing all you are telling me to do!

                  Yes, it is the PS sky. Sometimes I do put the healing brush over it and it looks a bit different.

                  I am not very good with layers. I do it in layers and then when I want to put my name on it, it talks about rasterizing it - I say "Yes" and all the layers appear to vanish!
                  Here you go, have a look at this. It's what you really, really need!
                  Actually, the rest of his tutorials are pretty easy to follow as well.



                  Give it a go!
                  Jim

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                  • #24
                    Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

                    Yer times just not yer own is it Jim
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                    • #25
                      Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

                      Originally posted by Jim View Post
                      Just you wait until *you* retire and don't have time for anything!
                      I had my plan worked out for today. Into Taunton, call at LCE and pick up the adapter for my right-angle viewfinder, drop your filters into the post office, scan the photo mags at Smith's, have a coffee at Umm where shall I go today... Starbuck's or Costa?, back home, out for a walk, decide what we're drinking with dinner tonight, put it in the fridge, You know, life goes on.
                      First my son in law brought up 3 cows to eat the grass in the orchard, they got away from him and got into a 100 acre field of wheat so we spent an hour chasing them, then the Great She Elephant remembered that I had an appointment with the nurse, then I got back from that and she decided that we were going to Tarr Steps for a day out and I've only just got back from that!

                      Filters in the post tomorrow, then!

                      Jim
                      Jim I know just how you feel. Why can't everyone just let us retired people live in total boredom. All I get is people trying to find me things to do so that I don't get bored. I now have more to do than I could possibly do if the days were twice as long, yet as you know they are only half as long as they used to be. My advice to everyone, don't retire, it's harder work than full employment.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

                        Originally posted by lumix View Post
                        I now have more to do than I could possibly do if the days were twice as long, yet as you know they are only half as long as they used to be.
                        *And* nobody works as hard as we used to, so when we *do* get things done, everyone else is behind us and we have to sit around waiting for them to catch up! I've never done so much sitting around waiting for everyone else as I've had to do since I retired!
                        Jim

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                        • #27
                          Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

                          Originally posted by Jim View Post
                          Here you go, have a look at this. It's what you really, really need!
                          Actually, the rest of his tutorials are pretty easy to follow as well.



                          Give it a go!
                          Jim
                          I have already slotted in a sky from Cuba, however, this tutorial did give me some tips re resolutions. Thanks Jim.

                          You seem to have your life all planned out for you.
                          We have been retired for just 10 years now and my husband is keen on painting. I must admit when Wednesday morning (Painting class) comes, and he says he isn't going because he has some gardening to do, I feel a bit miffed as I feel guilty messing about with pics on the computer when he is gardening.
                          Audrey

                          https://www.flickr.com/photos/autumn36/

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                          • #28
                            Re: Another vintage car from Cuba

                            Here is my last effort. I keep changing the sky. The naturally dark blue did not look right.

                            Still not sure about the framing. I began to think that the black framing also was wrong.

                            If anyone would like to critique it for me I would be pleased. I know it's not perfect, but Jim's critique gave me a "Kick up the Proverbial ... ..." and made me look more carefully at what I was showing. It also made me get my tutorial out.

                            Anyway here is it:

                            Audrey

                            https://www.flickr.com/photos/autumn36/

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