Same scene, but different colour

[Ian]

So which is better?

One is an unchanged camera JPEG and the other is processed from RAW (Nikon D200). Here is picture 1:

And picture 2:

And can you tell which was the camera JPEG and which was the RAW conversion?

Ian

[Stephen]

Re: Same scene, but different colour

So which is better?

Ian

The implication of your question is that one is better than the other because one is from a Raw file and one is from and in camera jpeg.

Surely this is giving the impression that if you consider picture 1 better than picture 2 or vice versa then that is the method to use. I think you would agree that this is not the case and is not the correct way to view the use of either method

I'm not about to say which is the better, that is too subjective, this is something for the photographer to decide. The point is that taking the picture in Raw gives you the choice of how the end result appears and the jpeg method does not. Now if you were to ask which of the two I preferred, I would have to say the second

[Ian]

Re: Same scene, but different colour

The implication of your question is that one is better than the other because one is from a Raw file and one is from and in camera jpeg.

Surely this is giving the impression that if you consider picture 1 better than picture 2 or vice versa then that is the method to use. I think you would agree that this is not the case and is not the correct way to view the use of either method

I'm not about to say which is the better, that is too subjective, this is something for the photographer to decide. The point is that taking the picture in Raw gives you the choice of how the end result appears and the jpeg method does not. Now if you were to ask which of the two I preferred, I would have to say the second

Actually, I meant to ask which one was "preferable" - the interest for me being that the RAW image I processed turned out quite differently from the in-camera JPEG. Of course it is subjective, but I suppose I had the advantage of being there at the time the picture was taken...

Ian

[Mike Parr]

Re: Same scene, but different colour

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[Pol]

Re: Same scene, but different colour

I prefer the first one.

If you asked me why, which I hope you won't, I'd say I felt the second one was a tad too bright and 'yellowish'. I'd also say reducing the contrast in the shaded areas, where the fella is sitting, has removed some of the natural tones, magic and tranquility of the scene.

Pol

[StuartR]

Re: Same scene, but different colour

I prefer the first one.

If you asked me why, which I hope you won't, I'd say I felt the second one was a tad too bright and 'yellowish'. I'd also say reducing the contrast in the shaded areas, where the fella is sitting, has removed some of the natural tones, magic and tranquility of the scene.

Pol

I prefer the second one but then I am addicted to the shadow/highlight command in PhotoShop (and that's Ian's fault for pointing it out to me in the first place! ) which produces this type of result IMHO. I get a similar result from the "highlight recovery" option in DxO 3.5/4.

I'd guess the first is the camera jpg? but I'm probably wrong!

[coupekid]

Re: Same scene, but different colour

So which is better?

One is an unchanged camera JPEG and the other is processed from RAW (Nikon D200). Here is picture 1:

Ian[/LEFT]

Hi Ian,

I much prefer the first one. It has a much more 'natural' feel and look to it. The second appears to have been manipulated to bring out the shadows (guessing the second is raw, but not terribly experience in IDing this!)

Cheers Ben

[Ian]

Re: Same scene, but different colour

Hi Ian,

I much prefer the first one. It has a much more 'natural' feel and look to it. The second appears to have been manipulated to bring out the shadows (guessing the second is raw, but not terribly experience in IDing this!)

Cheers Ben

I have just come back to my original post and now it's night time and the indoor lights are on the pictures have an entirely different feel to when I looked at them earlier today. Mind you, the colour changes to the forum today may also have contributed to the difference in perception.

Ian

[Ian]

Re: Same scene, but different colour

So which is better?

One is an unchanged camera JPEG and the other is processed from RAW (Nikon D200). Here is picture 1:

And picture 2:

And can you tell which was the camera JPEG and which was the RAW conversion?

Ian

I'd forgotten about this thread - it's 'unfinished' business

Opinions seemed pretty split down the middle, but I can reveal that the top one is the processed one (a product of my personal preference of course) and the second at the bottom is the original camera JPEG.

They do have very different atmospheres - they could almost have been different days. The picture was taken through the railings off Park Lane in London into the park, on my way to the Pentax K10D launch event that was held in the Wellington Arch at Hyde Park Corner. The camera's very green interpretation is not how I remember the colours and as the picture was taken in the early evening (6PM) in September, you would expect the warmth that I have restored. I also like good black density and this has sacrificed some of the luminous shadow detail of the JPEG, but I feel it also helps the sunshine show through better. Just my take on it

Ian