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    I am quite please with this image but I welcome your input. I have to use the exp comp to ensure the sky remained blue.

    Nikon D40
    F stop : F/14
    Exposure: 1/800 Sec
    ISO: 200
    Exp bias: -2 step
    Focal Length: 18mm
    Max aperture : 3.6



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    Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

    Hello Hawkeye! Welcome to DPNow

    You're very brave diving straight into Critique here

    You have captured a great view of the Canyon, however I think it is lacking in a little punch and sparkle. I notice from the exif data that you set the camera to under-expose by 2EVs, which is a lot. The image's histogram is bunched to the left which means many of the mid-tones are too dark. It leaves the image looking a bit grey. I have adjusted the image to my preference and and show it here in this thread if you would be happy for me to do so?

    Also I note that you have used f/14. This will mean your image is slightly diffraction-limited. So if you had used f/8, for example, the image would be slightly sharper.

    Have you used a graduated filter? the darkness of the sky at the top of the frame suggests this to me - maybe done in post-processing?

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      Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

      I welcome any input.

      No manipulation on the image at all, no filter either hence the playing with the exposure. On the day the light was very bright, trying to keep the sky blue was the issue.

      I have only really just go into playing with the camera in manual mode and hope to get into night school in January.

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      • #4
        Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

        I've just d/l your picci and taken it into Photoshop (CS5) and noted the histogram is completely flat on the right side, meaning there's a range of the brighter tones missing from the picci.

        I simply slid the slider towards the crntre to bring in the flattened tones and the end result shows a bright, contrasty image whilst retaining the bright, blue sky.

        D'ya use PS? If so just look at the levels to see what I mean about the histogram.

        Pol

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        • #5
          Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

          Originally posted by Pol View Post

          I simply slid the slider towards the crntre to bring in the flattened tones and the end result shows a bright, contrasty image whilst retaining the bright, blue sky.

          D'ya use PS? If so just look at the levels to see what I mean about the histogram.

          Pol
          And here's a copy of the image after I moved the slider to bring in the flattened tones, though you might want to tweak it another way yourself. The contrasts could probably be further improved.



          Pol

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          • #6
            Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

            It does indeed look brighter.

            I dont use photoshop, I try to get the picture right in the camera but I can see it does add something!

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            • #7
              Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

              Yup - Pol has done exactly what I did

              Don't be too concerned about over-exposure in a DSLR; highlights can be recovered surprisingly well. There was probably no need to use any compensation on the exposure in this shot.

              While it is an admirable goal to get the image right in the camera, it is more than likely that camera images will require some post-processing to get the best out of them.

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              • #8
                Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

                Pol's edit produces a perfect histogram. Now all it needs is a boost to the contrast and a white balance adjustment, due to the distant haze and blusih tinge of shooting under a blue sky in the middle of the day.

                John Perriment

                A photograph is more than a record of what you see - it's a window to your soul

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                • #9
                  Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

                  Hi Hawkeye,
                  Welcome to the club.
                  Very nice picture. It has a lot of possibilities for edition, and the data in it is very reach even after beeing underexposed. Here is my interpretation done in camera raw CS6. I did so by moving the histogram to the center by increasing the exposure and the brightness and contrast . I also made local selections to the inferior, medium and upper third of the picture and applied diferent curves to each other, varying the contrast, luminosity and saturation. A local selection of the river was used to increase its luminosity and contrast to make it more visible and some vignetting on the periphery was applied. There is some capture sharpening as well. My best regards, Horacio


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                  • #10
                    Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

                    A little bit of NeatImage to tidy up the noise in the sky:



                    (Yeap theres still some jpeg artifacts ... but this is working with an image thats been downloaded and re-saved several times so its tobe expected given .jpg's nature).

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                    • #11
                      Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

                      Lots of good advice on a nicely taken picture.

                      Welcome from me Hawkeyeuk.

                      Regards. Barr1e

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                      • #12
                        Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

                        Nice shot, that's bring back some pleasant memories of my first trip to America nearly 12 years ago. Unfortunately at that time I only had a camcorder so I am jealous you have taken this
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                        • #13
                          Re: Grand Canyon - My first ever Critique

                          This is one of the reasons I like to visit this forum. I get to tap into a vast pool of talent and experience and learn new techniques. I learned from every response to this thread. I use Photoshop Elements 9.0 and don't know where to look at histograms using the software.

                          I did apply Enhance/Auto Smart Fix to the photo but I'd rather do it properly.

                          Rather than scrolling up and down for comparisons, I'm displaying them side by side.

                          If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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