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  • Julius Beer Mausoleum

    Taken last year in Highgate Western Cemetery...


    C&C welcome!

    Andy
    Last edited by andyelliott; 26-03-10, 06:30 PM.
    Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
    Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release

    Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy

    Website: http://361photography.com

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  • #2
    Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

    I don't do critique as most know.

    I like what I see though and you have captured it perfectly I feel especially with the sunlight catching the window arch.

    Regards. Barr1e

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    • #3
      Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

      Originally posted by Barr1e View Post
      I don't do critique as most know.

      I like what I see though and you have captured it perfectly I feel especially with the sunlight catching the window arch.

      Regards. Barr1e


      It's one of five images going into a panel next week...
      Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
      Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release

      Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy

      Website: http://361photography.com

      "AndyElliott" @ FTU

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      • #4
        Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

        I think the proportions of the image and lighting are spot on, but architechture should be sharp in detail and this is not.
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        • #5
          Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

          Originally posted by ash View Post
          I think the proportions of the image and lighting are spot on, but architechture should be sharp in detail and this is not.
          I think the "medium" rendering on the gallery looks soft. If you go to the gallery and open up the large image, you will see it is sharp!



          100% crop on window:



          Andy
          Last edited by andyelliott; 27-03-10, 09:20 AM.
          Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
          Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release

          Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy

          Website: http://361photography.com

          "AndyElliott" @ FTU

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          • #6
            Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

            I'd agree with you Andy it is sharp on the large version, its maybe a case of the gallery software letting you down. Your large version is 1000px high and you have already had to compress it a fair bit. The medium version is compressed further by the gallery on upload and as you have rightly chosen to show that version (the large one is ideally too big for the forum) the end result is a softer version showing some compression artefacts.

            I have found, as a committed Lightroom user, that on export make the file around 800px high/wide set the quality to around 85/90 and set sharpen for screen, gives an excellent result. You can then show the large version and avoid the more compressed medium version
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            • #7
              Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

              BTW I'd be very keen to see your panel that includes this shot, if that's at all possible. On its own I suspect it lacks something that is gained by a series of five (mmm, does that make sense )
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              • #8
                Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

                Originally posted by Stephen View Post
                I'd agree with you Andy it is sharp on the large version, its maybe a case of the gallery software letting you down. Your large version is 1000px high and you have already had to compress it a fair bit. The medium version is compressed further by the gallery on upload and as you have rightly chosen to show that version (the large one is ideally too big for the forum) the end result is a softer version showing some compression artefacts.

                I have found, as a committed Lightroom user, that on export make the file around 800px high/wide set the quality to around 85/90 and set sharpen for screen, gives an excellent result. You can then show the large version and avoid the more compressed medium version
                That's a fair point, I do sometime like to at least upload the large version so you can look at the detail if you want to. I'm wondering whether the forum could be set to re-sharpen the image for web-view when it resizes for the 'medium' version (I think it uses ImageMagick under the hood, so this should be possible).
                Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
                Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release

                Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy

                Website: http://361photography.com

                "AndyElliott" @ FTU

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                • #9
                  Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

                  Originally posted by Stephen View Post
                  BTW I'd be very keen to see your panel that includes this shot, if that's at all possible. On its own I suspect it lacks something that is gained by a series of five (mmm, does that make sense )
                  It's here:



                  I am wondering which of the portrait shots to use. The idea of this panel is that:
                  • It's monochrome
                  • Sets are to demonstrate a wide variety of technique and subject matter.
                  • Mounting and print arrangement to be taken into consideration when judged.


                  I know at least one other panel that I will be up against (Sarah, who I did the frog shots with) and the standard will be very high.

                  Andy
                  Last edited by andyelliott; 27-03-10, 04:12 PM.
                  Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
                  Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release

                  Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy

                  Website: http://361photography.com

                  "AndyElliott" @ FTU

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                  • #10
                    Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

                    Originally posted by andyelliott View Post
                    It's here:



                    I am wondering which of the portrait shots to use. The idea of this panel is that:
                    • It's monochrome
                    • Sets are to demonstrate a wide variety of technique and subject matter.
                    • Mounting and print arrangement to be taken into consideration when judged.


                    I know at least one other panel that I will be up against (Sarah, who I did the frog shots with) and the standard will be very high.

                    Andy
                    Superb set Andy.

                    Each image almost fits in the perfect category.

                    Regards. Barr1e

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                    • #11
                      Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

                      Or if your re-sizing for web display sharpen accordingly.
                      http://www.ftmphotography.co.uk

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                      • #12
                        Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

                        Originally posted by ash View Post
                        Or if your re-sizing for web display sharpen accordingly.
                        True - but it's the automatic resizing that seems to be a bit of a pain - making the medium-size image you see in the gallery tend to look soft.
                        Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
                        Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release

                        Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy

                        Website: http://361photography.com

                        "AndyElliott" @ FTU

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                        • #13
                          Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

                          I suppose there has to be a standard baseline benchmark, otherwise images that are sharpened for their relative size would then be oversharpened on display in the forum.
                          http://www.ftmphotography.co.uk

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                          • #14
                            Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

                            Originally posted by ash View Post
                            I suppose there has to be a standard baseline benchmark, otherwise images that are sharpened for their relative size would then be oversharpened on display in the forum.
                            That's true, but if I post an image on picasa (here's the same image for reference, http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliot...69348747536178), then resize the window, picasa automatically resizes and resharpens the image to fit in the window. If you try it, you'll see whatever picasa is doing, the result looks a lot better. It may be less to do with sharpening on the forum, rather the compression factor for the medium image is too high.
                            Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
                            Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release

                            Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy

                            Website: http://361photography.com

                            "AndyElliott" @ FTU

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                            • #15
                              Re: Julius Beer Mausoleum

                              Ive never had a problem and ive posted a few images
                              http://www.ftmphotography.co.uk

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