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Julius Beer Mausoleum
Last edited by andyelliott; 26-03-10, 06:30 PM.Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release
Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy
Website: http://361photography.com
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Originally posted by Barr1e View PostI don't do critique as most know.
I like what I see though and you have captured it perfectly I feel especially with the sunlight catching the window arch.
Regards. Barr1e
It's one of five images going into a panel next week...Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release
Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy
Website: http://361photography.com
"AndyElliott" @ FTU
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I think the proportions of the image and lighting are spot on, but architechture should be sharp in detail and this is not.
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I think the "medium" rendering on the gallery looks soft. If you go to the gallery and open up the large image, you will see it is sharp!Originally posted by ash View PostI think the proportions of the image and lighting are spot on, but architechture should be sharp in detail and this is not.

100% crop on window:

AndyLast edited by andyelliott; 27-03-10, 09:20 AM.Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release
Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy
Website: http://361photography.com
"AndyElliott" @ FTU
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I'd agree with you Andy it is sharp on the large version, its maybe a case of the gallery software letting you down. Your large version is 1000px high and you have already had to compress it a fair bit. The medium version is compressed further by the gallery on upload and as you have rightly chosen to show that version (the large one is ideally too big for the forum) the end result is a softer version showing some compression artefacts.
I have found, as a committed Lightroom user,
that on export make the file around 800px high/wide set the quality to around 85/90 and set sharpen for screen, gives an excellent result. You can then show the large version and avoid the more compressed medium version
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That's a fair point, I do sometime like to at least upload the large version so you can look at the detail if you want to. I'm wondering whether the forum could be set to re-sharpen the image for web-view when it resizes for the 'medium' version (I think it uses ImageMagick under the hood, so this should be possible).Originally posted by Stephen View PostI'd agree with you Andy it is sharp on the large version, its maybe a case of the gallery software letting you down. Your large version is 1000px high and you have already had to compress it a fair bit. The medium version is compressed further by the gallery on upload and as you have rightly chosen to show that version (the large one is ideally too big for the forum) the end result is a softer version showing some compression artefacts.
I have found, as a committed Lightroom user,
that on export make the file around 800px high/wide set the quality to around 85/90 and set sharpen for screen, gives an excellent result. You can then show the large version and avoid the more compressed medium versionOlympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release
Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy
Website: http://361photography.com
"AndyElliott" @ FTU
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It's here:Originally posted by Stephen View PostBTW I'd be very keen to see your panel that includes this shot, if that's at all possible. On its own I suspect it lacks something that is gained by a series of five (mmm, does that make sense
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I am wondering which of the portrait shots to use. The idea of this panel is that:
- It's monochrome
- Sets are to demonstrate a wide variety of technique and subject matter.
- Mounting and print arrangement to be taken into consideration when judged.
I know at least one other panel that I will be up against (Sarah, who I did the frog shots with) and the standard will be very high.
AndyLast edited by andyelliott; 27-03-10, 04:12 PM.Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release
Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy
Website: http://361photography.com
"AndyElliott" @ FTU
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Superb set Andy.Originally posted by andyelliott View PostIt's here:
I am wondering which of the portrait shots to use. The idea of this panel is that:
- It's monochrome
- Sets are to demonstrate a wide variety of technique and subject matter.
- Mounting and print arrangement to be taken into consideration when judged.
I know at least one other panel that I will be up against (Sarah, who I did the frog shots with) and the standard will be very high.
Andy
Each image almost fits in the perfect category.
Regards. Barr1e
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Or if your re-sizing for web display sharpen accordingly.
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True - but it's the automatic resizing that seems to be a bit of a pain - making the medium-size image you see in the gallery tend to look soft.Originally posted by ash View PostOr if your re-sizing for web display sharpen accordingly.Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release
Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy
Website: http://361photography.com
"AndyElliott" @ FTU
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I suppose there has to be a standard baseline benchmark, otherwise images that are sharpened for their relative size would then be oversharpened on display in the forum.
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That's true, but if I post an image on picasa (here's the same image for reference, http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliot...69348747536178), then resize the window, picasa automatically resizes and resharpens the image to fit in the window. If you try it, you'll see whatever picasa is doing, the result looks a lot better. It may be less to do with sharpening on the forum, rather the compression factor for the medium image is too high.Originally posted by ash View PostI suppose there has to be a standard baseline benchmark, otherwise images that are sharpened for their relative size would then be oversharpened on display in the forum.Olympus E-PL3, E-5 ZD 50 f2.0, 7-14 f4, 12-60 f2.8-4, 14-35 f2, PL25 f1.4, 35-100 f2, 50-200 f2.8-f3.5 SWD, 150 f2, 70-300 f4-5.6, 300 f2.8, mZuiko 14-42 II, mZuiko 40-150, EX-25, EC-14, EC-20, HLD-4
Metz 58, 2x 48 AF-1, Manfrotto 441, Gimbal Head, Velbon Neopod 74, RF Cable Release
Gallery: http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/elliott.aje.andy
Website: http://361photography.com
"AndyElliott" @ FTU
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Ive never had a problem and ive posted a few images
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