Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

[Guest]

It would appear that the comment entry boxes in Galleries which allow one to comment on someone's picture have gone missing again. If I am correct, can this facility be re-instated please Ian ?

[Stephen]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

It would appear that the comment entry boxes in Galleries which allow one to comment on someone's picture have gone missing again. If I am correct, can this facility be re-instated please Ian ?

Dennis the comments facility in the Galleries have been intentionally disabled. The thinking behind the decision was to encourage the images to be posted on the forum by direct linking and therefore to comment there.

[Guest]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

Dennis the comments facility in the Galleries have been intentionally disabled. The thinking behind the decision was to encourage the images to be posted on the forum by direct linking and therefore to comment there.

Stephen - If you look at my prevous thread 'Adding comments to galleries pics' of about a week ago and to which you replied - this was followed by Ian (Delta Papa November) who applogised that it had been switched off and that he would rectify this. !

Who switched it off again I would say that anyone browsing the galleries and comes across a picture which appealed to them should be allowed the facility to compliment the author. Said picture may not have appeared on the forums. !!

[Stephen]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

Stephen - If you look at my prevous thread 'Adding comments to galleries pics' of about a week ago and to which you replied - this was followed by Ian (Delta Papa November) who applogised that it had been switched off and that he would rectify this. !

Who switched it off again I would say that anyone browsing the galleries and comes across a picture which appealed to them should be allowed the facility to compliment the author. Said picture may not have appeared on the forums. !!

Dennis you are quite right, at the time the comments were mistakenly only visible to Mods and Admin. However since then and after some thought it was decided as I said before to switch them off completely.

If people want comments or critique on their photos, then they will post a link from the Gallery and therefore ask for them. There is then no confusion over where comments are made and one method will not negate the need for the other. I hope this is clear.

[Guest]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

Stephen - First you did not answer my question "Who switched them off again and on whose authority"??
Second - you are completely missing the point of my argument - 'How can one comment on someone else's picture in their gallery if it has not appeared on the forum, and there is no facility within galleries to do so.'

[Ian]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

Hi Dennis - just got back in from a 10 hour drive from Cologne!

I am very sorry and apologise unreservedly for the confusion, but Stephen is perfectly right. I was at error in the first place as it had been agreed that commenting would not be used in the gallery and I completely forgot (I was in a bit of a pre-Photokina rush) and responded to your query and automatically switched the commenting back on.

When I realised what I had done, I should have explained the situation to you, so it's really and truly my fault.

The primary reason the gallery was introduced was because the new forum doesn't let you upload and display images into a post at full size as the old forum did. You can only upload and attach images to a post directly that are shown as thumbnails. I want us to focus on the forum for comments as it's more centralised. Otherwise the gallery will divert attention away in to little pockets across the gallery. I realise this is a slightly controversial strategy, but I am convinced it is right.

If you feel enthusiastic enough about an image to seek comment on it, post it in one of the Image Insight boards. You have the option of using web space outside of DPNow and using the Image insert button, using the url of the location of the image file, uploading the image to the gallery (using the DPNow server) and using the url or BB code displayed in the same manner or to attach the image using the attachments manager and this uploads the image to the DPNow server.

Although commenting isn't possible in the gallery, you can still rate images and send the photographer a private email with your feedback - by all means urge them to post the image on the forum too.

It makes a great deal of sense to me - I really hope you will persevere and see what we are trying to achieve.

Once again, sorry for the confusion and I hope I've managed to explain things satisfactorily.

Ian

[Ian]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

I ought to add that the Salon competition board does not allow attachments as we feel images should always be displayed full-size on that board.

Ian

[Stephen]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

I am very sorry and apologise unreservedly for the confusion, but Stephen is perfectly right. I was at error in the first place ...........

Ian

You see Dennis you can't get the staff these days

[Guest]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

I am sorry Ian & Stephen but you both seem to be missing my point. If I would like to add a comment to a picture which I like in another person's gallery which has not appeared in a forum, at the moment I cannot as the facility is switched off.

[lumix]

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I'm just a little confused by all this. Is the galleries use only to facilitate the uploading of images to the forum? Once uploaded to the forum can the galleries image be deleted without affecting the images uploaded to the forum? Why dose the galleries images have no comments under them if you can't make a comment anyway.

[Stephen]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

I am sorry Ian & Stephen but you both seem to be missing my point. If I would like to add a comment to a picture which I like in another person's gallery which has not appeared in a forum, at the moment I cannot as the facility is switched off.

This is true Dennis, at the moment, though we have tried to explain the thinking behind it.

[JoeB]

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I'm just a little confused by all this. Is the galleries use only to facilitate the uploading of images to the forum? Once uploaded to the forum can the galleries image be deleted without affecting the images uploaded to the forum? Why dose the galleries images have no comments under them if you can't make a comment anyway.

As things stand at the moment this is the major function of the galleries as Ian has explained. If a picture from the gallery is deleted after a link is used to show it on the forum, then the picture will disappear all together. This is how I understand it at least

[Ian]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

I am sorry Ian & Stephen but you both seem to be missing my point. If I would like to add a comment to a picture which I like in another person's gallery which has not appeared in a forum, at the moment I cannot as the facility is switched off.

Hi Dennis, no we understand fully. I decided (after some discussion with others who have a lot of experience with other sits that run both galleries and forums) that the place for commenting must be in the forum, not the gallery.

The logic is that a forum is a place for discussion and a gallery is a place for viewing. The DPNow forum can do both, but to enable the gallery to do both as well will polarise the DPNow community and make neither a satisfactory focus.

So if anyone is interested in receiving public feedback on their images they need to include their images on the forum in one of the Image Insight boards. This does mean that if someone uploads an image to the gallery and doesn't display it in the forum, you will not be able to provide public feedback via a gallery comment, as this is not enabled.

I very much hope that if you or anyone else sees an image in the gallery that you feel deserves some good quality discussion, that the person who uploaded that image can be persuaded to display it in the forum where I vibrant discussion can follow. The T&C's of the gallery could even be amended to enable a moderator to do this by request - we'll look into that.

I hope the above makes it clearer.

Ian

[Ian]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

Hi Ron, you are correct. At the moment, if you deleted an image that was uploaded to the gallery and displayed in the forum, it would also disappear from the forum. This isn't ideal and as the gallery has limited space per account, we'll certainly have to look at how such images can be made independent of the gallery.

Ian

[Guest]

Re: Comment Boxes in Galleries - Missing (Ian??)

Hi Ian - Yes it makes it clear about how you wish to operate, but it does not satisfy my reqirement. I simply wish to add a comment not start a discussion. !! Most other galleries that I have visited do allow comments, but perhaps the DPNow galleries are not galleries in the same sense ??. That having been said, I may not like it but I will just have to accept it.