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    The dramatised story of the relationship between Sir Clive Sinclair and Chris Curry, the two great microcomputer entrepeneurs of the early 1980s was a real eye-opener for me. When I switched from working in the photographic trade in 1982, I started a small software development business, before eventually turning to journalism and writing about IT in general (and then on to digital imaging...)

    I interviewed Sir Clive several times, and was a frequent visitor to Acorn Computers in Cambridge, and knew quite a few of the staff there. I even went to the Acorn Christmas party on a couple of occasions!

    Roger Wilson (now Sophie), who wrote BBC Basic, and later worked with Steve Furber to design the ARM RISC processor (descendants of which are now the most prolific of microprocessors in history and are used in most mobile phones, PDAs, plus Nintendo GameBoys, etc.) used to be a poster here on the old DPNow forum, and was a Pentax DSLR user. If you are reading this Sophie - you're very welcome to join in here once again!

    I sometimes used to sit with Steve Furber on the train into London from Saffron Walden and probably bore him to death chatting about microprocessors!

    And there is an obscure link with photography - Chris Curry co-founded Redwood Publishing, which published the now defunct Acorn User magazine. Acorn User was briefly edited by Barry Monk, who also spent a couple of years editing Amateur Photographer magazine.

    There you go!

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    Of course I watched it - well most of it, as I was also cooking dinner... missed the crucial point where the two fell out and each went their own way.

    I also have memories of the two men as I worked for Sinclair Radionics from 1972-75 (if only in the accounts department!)

    Mind you, I still have a Micromatic radio knocking around somewhere...

    I also have memories of the parties, and borrowing the Shadow convertible (not a saloon, as shown in the play) along with quite a few others on a Friday afternoon after the last orders had gone out and going on a jolly round the local pubs!

    I have a vivid memory of going up to R&D one afternoon to watch the Derby and someone (I have a funny feeling it was actually Chris...) physically chucking me out when I said the screen on the telly (it was in development then) was far too small to actually see the horses!

    I did post something on the Sinclair board on Friends Reunited, but no one's replied as yet...

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      Originally posted by Caz View Post
      Of course I watched it - well most of it, as I was also cooking dinner... missed the crucial point where the two fell out and each went their own way.

      I also have memories of the two men as I worked for Sinclair Radionics from 1972-75 (if only in the accounts department!)

      Mind you, I still have a Micromatic radio knocking around somewhere...

      I also have memories of the parties, and borrowing the Shadow convertible (not a saloon, as shown in the play) along with quite a few others on a Friday afternoon after the last orders had gone out and going on a jolly round the local pubs!

      I have a vivid memory of going up to R&D one afternoon to watch the Derby and someone (I have a funny feeling it was actually Chris...) physically chucking me out when I said the screen on the telly (it was in development then) was far too small to actually see the horses!

      I did post something on the Sinclair board on Friends Reunited, but no one's replied as yet...

      Carol
      I was more on the Acorn side of things, and more involved a bit later than the period the drama covered, 1983 onwards, though I did have a BBC Micro (Model B!) not long after it came out.

      I had no idea Sir Clive had such a short tempter - he was always quietly spoken in my experience. Chris Curry, on the other hand, was not as meek and mild as he was portrayed in my experience.

      Hermann Hauser was brilliantly cast - exactly as I remember him

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        Hi Ian - Yes I watched the whole program and was fascinated as I was about that time employed by a company that made measuring instruments for schools science labs and I was employed to write software for some of these computers to interface to these instruments. As a matter of interest I still have a Sinclair ZX81 and a Sinclair QL tucked away at the bottom of a cupboard collecting dust. !!

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          The program brought back lots of memories of Cambridge around that time. Some not so sweet - the Acorn crash hurt a lot of small companies in Cambridge. I do remember a couple of good Acorn parties though!

          I have owned a ZX81, Acorn Atom and a BBC Micro with a Torch extension pack. All Apple for me nowadays, though.

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            Originally posted by Kurt View Post
            The program brought back lots of memories of Cambridge around that time. Some not so sweet - the Acorn crash hurt a lot of small companies in Cambridge. I do remember a couple of good Acorn parties though!

            I have owned a ZX81, Acorn Atom and a BBC Micro with a Torch extension pack. All Apple for me nowadays, though.
            I had a Torch too - running 'Perfect' Software.

            Did you not go down the Archimedes/Risc PC route?

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              Originally posted by DennisP View Post
              Hi Ian - Yes I watched the whole program and was fascinated as I was about that time employed by a company that made measuring instruments for schools science labs and I was employed to write software for some of these computers to interface to these instruments. As a matter of interest I still have a Sinclair ZX81 and a Sinclair QL tucked away at the bottom of a cupboard collecting dust. !!
              I never clicked with Sinclair micros - the ZX80 looked cool, but the screen went blank when it was computing anything. The ZX81 was better, but I hated the keyboard and mono graphics. The Spectrum was even worse as the graphics weren't proper hi-res colour graphics (you couldn't asign every pixel a different colour to the adjacent pixesl) and the multi-function keyboard was a nightmare. The 6502 processor on Acorn's 8-bit models was miuch more elegant than the Z80 on the ZX-series, too.

              As for the QL - a 32 bit architecture nobbled to 8 bits, if I recall. And the keyboard was rubbish, as were microdrives!

              Now, the Archimedes, with 32 bit RISC - fantastic

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                I was actually watching the programme on iPlayer when you posted this thread Ian. It certainly gave an insight into some of the goings on at the time. I never realised that Acorn was something that was started by a Sinclair man.

                The programme did however bring back memories of the old BBC machine which I used in schools when teaching. The problem as I saw it at the time was the Govt was putting loads of money into schools to buy these machines, and so our Dept. had 2 or 3 However we never had any money to buy software that was worth having. The Acorn Archimedes was a great however and I used to virtually the sole user of the one in our dept. there was still a great scepticism then to computers and many staff didn't really want to now. When I left teaching I bought my own Archimedes, I loved that machine, but it soon became apparent that it was not industry standard and so it had to go in favour of a PC How things change, and I'm now solely using Macs.
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                  Originally posted by Stephen View Post
                  I was actually watching the programme on iPlayer when you posted this thread Ian. It certainly gave an insight into some of the goings on at the time. I never realised that Acorn was something that was started by a Sinclair man.

                  The programme did however bring back memories of the old BBC machine which I used in schools when teaching. The problem as I saw it at the time was the Govt was putting loads of money into schools to buy these machines, and so our Dept. had 2 or 3 However we never had any money to buy software that was worth having. The Acorn Archimedes was a great however and I used to virtually the sole user of the one in our dept. there was still a great scepticism then to computers and many staff didn't really want to now. When I left teaching I bought my own Archimedes, I loved that machine, but it soon became apparent that it was not industry standard and so it had to go in favour of a PC How things change, and I'm now solely using Macs.
                  I still have an Acorn Risc PC that gathers dust in the office. 30MHz ARM RISC processor My phone has s 600MHz ARM processor in it today! My laptop has a 2GHz CPU, with dual cores, my desktop has a 3GHz CPU, the server for this site has a quad-core CPU

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                    Originally posted by Ian View Post
                    I had a Torch too - running 'Perfect' Software.

                    Did you not go down the Archimedes/Risc PC route?

                    Ian
                    Yes, the Perfect Software, great stuff! and a Daisy Wheel printer plugged into that, several hundreds of pounds worth of gear!

                    I never got to grips with the Archimedes, although I thought it had great potential. I moved into the Apple II as I was into developing conversions from word processors to composition machines of the time and Linotype picked up the Apple as a cheap typesetting machine.

                    I only sold the Acorn Atom a few months ago on ebay.

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                      Originally posted by Kurt View Post
                      Yes, the Perfect Software, great stuff! and a Daisy Wheel printer plugged into that, several hundreds of pounds worth of gear!

                      I never got to grips with the Archimedes, although I thought it had great potential. I moved into the Apple II as I was into developing conversions from word processors to composition machines of the time and Linotype picked up the Apple as a cheap typesetting machine.

                      I only sold the Acorn Atom a few months ago on ebay.
                      I had a Juki linear motor daisywheel printer; it could do proportional spacing with the Perfect Software suite

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                        We must have had the same deal! I found the printer very reliable too. It was the nearest you could get to typesetting on a budget in those days. I had to go on a search to see if there were any on the InterWeb, and here they are, some still going strong!



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                          I still have several boxes of 5.25 inch floppies. I even used a computer with 8 inch floppies at one point.

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                            You don't look old enough! But don't get me started I will start boring you with tales of punched tape or even Linotype machines! My first keyboard . . .

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                              Originally posted by Kurt View Post
                              You don't look old enough! But don't get me started I will start boring you with tales of punched tape or even Linotype machines! My first keyboard . . .
                              I did computer science at Hatfield Poly; done paper tape, punched cards, mainframe operator-loaded mag tape, teletype keyboards, - this was when colour graphics was highly experimental! c.1979

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