Alonso.....a lousy cheat?

[Bearface]

Looks like Alonso - already a poor sportsman, a bad loser and a distinctly mediocre talent in my view - is making the headlines for the wrong reasons yet again. This time he deliberately delayed his final pit departure by 4 secs during qualifying to ensure that Hamilton (queuing directly behind him) couldn't get back on track in time for a final run. Despite Lewis having been consistently quicker (well, he is the better driver...) throughout the session, Alonso took pole by a tiny margin.

Even Hamilton, who is normally diplomatic and/or philosophical about these things, was livid. He said nothing to the press other than "you saw what happened, so there's nothing else to say...".

Alonso has refused to discuss the matter, although apparently Ron wasn't too happy with him. I just hope that the miserable little man (that's Alonso, not Ron... ) gets his just desserts as far as the media and the fans are concerned. Schumacher was roundly criticised throughout his career for his transgressions, whereas Alonso (a driver with no charisma and surprisingly little in the way of talent...) seems to escape such things. Hopefully this will force people to open their eyes...

[peter]

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Second best thing i have seen on tv in weeks. I was rolling around on the floor with tears in my eyes. Seeing Big Ron drag that little guy down the pit lane was just great. Sorry if that seems wrong and I think you all know of my love of f1 but that was just great tv . It is being looked into by the stewards so its not over just yet. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that debrief.

Oh and the other thing was the guys from top gear going to the pole now that was funny

[peter]

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61368

Oh well now we know what went on thats ok. Big Ron always tell the truth . I guess if Ron says that is what happened then that must be what happened.

[Bearface]

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61368

Oh well now we know what went on thats ok. Big Ron always tell the truth . I guess if Ron says that is what happened then that must be what happened.

What a complete load of B******s!

I've never been a fan of the dour, petulant personality that is Ron Dennis in my opinion, but this takes the biscuit. His pomposity and arrogance throughout the spygate scandal have done his reputation enough damage, but if he thinks anyone with half an ounce of common sense (let alone a rudimentary knowledge of pitlane procedure during quali 3...) is going to fall for his (and Fernado's...) "explanation" of events, he's got another thing coming. Ludicrous...

Alonso quite clearly delayed his own departure from the pits.......anyone who saw the footage can see that. Hamilton suffered as a result and is justifiably upset. Still, he should simply take solace from the fact that he's ten times the driver Alonso is.

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Justice

[coupekid]

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What a complete load of B******s!

I've never been a fan of the dour, petulant personality that is Ron Dennis is in my opinion, but this takes the biscuit. His pomposity and arrogance throughout the spygate scandal have done his reputation enough damage, but if he thinks anyone with half an ounce of common sense (let alone a rudimentary knowledge of pitlane procedure during quali 3...) is going to fall for his (and Fernado's...) "explanation" of events, he's got another thing coming. Ludicrous...

Alonso quite clearly delayed his own departure from the pits.......anyone who saw the footage can see that. Hamilton suffered as a result and is justifiably upset. Still, he should simply take solace from the fact that he's ten times the driver Alonso is.

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Justice

Well, as you know I am a big McLaren fan, but this is well deserved!

I dont think the truth will ever come out, but when the lollipop rises, a driver should go, so my speculative blame lies purely with Alonso, and as such am pleased to hear he has been relegated.....complete justice as you say Tim.

I am not too happy about the constructor point situation though, as he really was only punishing his team mate by the underhanded manner. But I gues its a message to the rest of the field as to what will happen for future similar moves.

[Bearface]

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I dont think the truth will ever come out, but when the lollipop rises, a driver should go, so my speculative blame lies purely with Alonso, and as such am pleased to hear he has been relegated.....complete justice as you say Tim.

It's rare for the teams themselves to back-pedal and admit that they were in the wrong, but it looked to me as if Ron had begun to see how this could be construed as a team error too. I mean, if he and several other team seniors were stood on the pit wall when the lollipop was lifted, why weren't they on the radio to Alonso screaming at him to get moving? A one-second delay should've been enough to warrant such action...........but ten..? That's a lifetime in F1...

As far as Alonso, Hamilton and any other race mechanic or team engineer might be concerned, there'll almost certainly be an account of the true events in due course. Just look out for Hamilton's autobiography

I am not too happy about the constructor point situation though, as he really was only punishing his team mate by the underhanded manner. But I gues its a message to the rest of the field as to what will happen for future similar moves.

Ultimately, I think this is down to the alleged actions of Alonso's physio (who was seen by several people - including Ron - giving hand-signals to Alonso as he procastinated in the pits...), as well as the inaction of other team members (see above) during the same period. The whole thing smelled badly of something far bigger than the actions of a single person and while I'm in no doubt that Alonso chose to sit still and impede his superior team-mate, I also think (as clearly the stewards did) that more could have been done by the team and perhaps even Ron himself.

If I was Ron, I'd be banning that physio from the pitlane during future race weekends, just for starters. I'd also be in the early stages (after all, it's getting close to that stage of the season now...) of deciding whether to focus my resources on my most talented, championship-leading driver, or the far less talented, troublesome and emotionally unstable one who happened to win two world championships thanks to a triumph of his Renault package over any real talent he may have possessed at the time. Tough choice there, Ron....