New PC Required

[Ian]

[Patrick]

Re: New PC Required

[Patrick]

Re: New PC Required

Personally firmly in the Windows 7 camp. I have an i7 machine and and a 27" monitor. Younger son has a Mac and I have still had to go and do things for him like getting his wireless printer to work for example(not sure if that is down to him or the Mac though :-)). I have had this machine for over a year now and it has never crashed and never had any downtime for repairs either. Nor have I had any viruses. I am guessing by the demographics on here that there are not a lot of gamers? I am one of these numpties that love Call of Duty etc as well. Don't get them for Mac. I know I can dual boot etc, just seems a waste of time. There is without a doubt a better range of hard and software available for Windows. I guess at the end of the day it is finding a machine that does what you want for the price you want. Up to this machine I have always built my own from scratch ( I was in too much of a hurry for this one), Can't do that with a Mac. Future proofing is impossible but at least with the PC you can upgrade various components as you like. Not sure you can do that with a Mac. As for PC World!! Just don't go there!! Sad, clueless individuals thrown into a job most do not understand except sell sell sell.

Its true Macs are not gamers machines, although a number of the top selling games are now offered for Mac.As fare as I know Gina is not looking at gaming. Anyone wanting the latest games would inevitably be disappointed.

I disagree at your statement on the software (gaming excluded) that is an old notion it may have been true a few years ago but no longer, All the main manufacturers support Mac such as Adobe, Nike and many more including Microsoft's office, all my photo software except two had the Mac option. Its the shareware & freeware companies that tend to be platform specific, and there are tons of shareware & freeware for Mac only.
Sorry I forgot Sage my accounts package I use that on my Windows partition, if I had been starting from scratch I would be using a Mac based accounts package.

My iMac was so easy to set up, for example to set up my email account I simply typed in my address and the machine set it up perfectly. With Windows I always had to set it up myself.
With Windows the Blue-tooth was always a bit flaky, working when it felt like it (I had a blue-tooth mouse) On the Mac the blue-tooth keyboard and mouse never miss a beat.

Patrick

[TheBull1875]

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Its true Macs are not gamers machines, although a number of the top selling games are now offered for Mac.As fare as I know Gina is not looking at gaming. Anyone wanting the latest games would inevitably be disappointed.

I disagree at your statement on the software (gaming excluded) that is an old notion it may have been true a few years ago but no longer, All the main manufacturers support Mac such as Adobe, Nike and many more including Microsoft's office, all my photo software except two had the Mac option. Its the shareware & freeware companies that tend to be platform specific, and there are tons of shareware & freeware for Mac only.
Sorry I forgot Sage my accounts package I use that on my Windows partition, if I had been starting from scratch I would be using a Mac based accounts package.

My iMac was so easy to set up, for example to set up my email account I simply typed in my address and the machine set it up perfectly. With Windows I always had to set it up myself.
With Windows the Blue-tooth was always a bit flaky, working when it felt like it (I had a blue-tooth mouse) On the Mac the blue-tooth keyboard and mouse never miss a beat.

Patrick

I will bow to your superior knowledge on the software side Patrick. Not having used Macs personally (apart from as I say above) I am only going on what I see around. Never seem to see much mac software in the computer shops.

[Ian]

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It depends on what you specifiy for iiyama - they have inexpensive and premium products, but they are almost always good value. Lacie is much the same as iiyama's premium range. Eizo and NEC can be hugely expensive as they produce very specialised displays. I would argue that most of us here would be more than happy with a S-IPS panel from display brands such as Dell and iiyama, among others.

Ian

[Patrick]

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I would argue that most of us here would be more than happy with a S-IPS panel from display brands such as Dell and iiyama, among others.

Ian

I agree I was very happy with a iiyama for years, and then a Dell up to buying the Mac, and then WOW

Patrick

[Ian]

Re: New PC Required

I agree I was very happy with a iiyama for years, and then a Dell up to buying the Mac, and then WOW

Patrick

[Patrick]

Re: New PC Required

I will bow to your superior knowledge on the software side Patrick. Not having used Macs personally (apart from as I say above) I am only going on what I see around. Never seem to see much mac software in the computer shops.

Its true you don't see much software in the computer shops, nor for that matter in Apple resellers or Apples own stores, very limited selection. Its mostly bought on line. I converted all my licenses I wanted from Win To Mac and bought Microsoft Office for Mac, didn't like Keynote, (desktop publisher) numbers (spread sheet) or Pages (word processor) runs very slow compared to Office for Mac. But I run them on the iMac and Office on the MacBook.
No they don't get everything right and I'm not blind to their deficiencies either, there is just less of them. Nor am I a gamer, of no interest at all.

Photoshop, Lightroom, Photomatix, PTGui all run a dream.

Patrick

[Patrick]

Re: New PC Required

You are possibly correct the iilyama was years ago and the Dell was bought approx 3-4 years ago. That said I haven't seen anything better than the Mac screen when I look round, in fact it still stands out for its quality.

Its interesting the BBC use a lot of LG monitors on their computers.

Patrick.

[Ian]

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You are possibly correct the iilyama was years ago and the Dell was bought approx 3-4 years ago. That said I haven't seen anything better than the Mac screen when I look round, in fact it still stands out for its quality.

Its interesting the BBC use a lot of LG monitors on their computers.

Patrick.

LG is not only a manufacturer of monitors, but they also manufacture panels and they have their own version of the IPS panel technology.

Ian

[Patrick]

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LG is not only a manufacturer of monitors, but they also manufacture panels and they have their own version of the IPS panel technology.

Ian

I had an LG my first flat panel monitor when the iilyama gave up. I Had first bought a Samsung but it had some dead pixels so I returned it and had the LG, I was very pleased with that, then I moved on to the Dell system.

Patrick

[Stephen]

Re: New PC Required

I don't think I can really add much to this thread. As a Mac user I think much in favour of them has already been said and Ian has done his best to balance the discussion in his usual pro PC fashion, which lets be fair, needs to be done.

Any argument about which is best is pretty academic I feel, especially as I sense Gina would not go for a Mac and she specifically asked about a PC. At the end of the day they are more expensive and if money is an issue then that's very important.

I would however just point out that as a matter of interest, I believe there are at least 4 regular members that have converted to Macs in the past 12 months and there are several others that were already using them, so the appeal is definitely there and of course this has all become clear in this thread

[Graham_of_Rainham]

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-U2311-Widescreen-Panel-Monitor/dp/B003R7K332/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=computers&qid=1294135655&sr=8-3

Ian

My new PC arrived today, which came with a free monitor as part of the deal. However they let you upgrade it, so I got one of these.

It is VERY good

[Ian]

Re: New PC Required

My new PC arrived today, which came with a free monitor as part of the deal. However they let you upgrade it, so I got one of these.

It is VERY good