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  • Canon G9........the temptation was too much :)

    We all have different needs when it comes to getting a new camera, what will suit one won't suit another and as the perfect camera does not exist, one has to bite the bullet and make a decision based on what you feel are your personal needs.

    Now I decided some time ago that I needed a compact camera. Carrying round a 1DMk2N plus lens(es) in the heat of the sun whilst on holiday when you are taking mostly snapshots, just doesn't hold the attraction for me anymore I went on a daytrip to Dundee recently with the camera bag on my back, and even though there was only 4 hrs in Dundee, I vowed I wasn't going to do that again.

    The fact is though that I still feel I need the versatility that a dSLR offers and that means exp control, raw, reasonable zoom, viewfinder, good resolution and as a bonus a few of the whistles and bells found on modern compacts.

    I studied and was almost seduced by the Panasonic Lumix TZ5. But there is no raw mode, no viewfinder and no manual controls, albeit a wealth of scene modes. Its a good size though and has a great 10x zoom and movie mode, frankly its a sexy little camera though not quite shirt pocket size. There are one or two others in the same class on the market but none seemed to fit my criteria fully.

    There is a great site run by Gordon Laing at www.cameralabs.com and he not only gives reviews of new cameras and lenses but also does a down loadable video review of each model too, where he seems to have an uncanny knack of summarising all the key points of a camera and assessing how well it works. TBH it was this that nearly convinced me about the TZ5, but then I put my sensible hat back on and had a look at his review of the Canon G9 It comes out with the same score as the TZ5 though he gives it a Recommended rather than a Highly Recommended, but then he doesn't know my criteria

    I have had 2 Canon G series cameras in the past the G2 and G3. Both are excellent cameras, and at the time were rated as the best in their class. I got some great pics with them and loved the articulated screen which at the time was unique to those models though now its been copied by others. They has raw mode too, even though I don't think I appreciated that so much at the time I used them. I still have both cameras, but somehow I grew out of them. The G3 only has 4mp and the screen is quite small by todays standards. The fact is though that they have been sat on a shelf for a long time now unused, but frankly I can't see myself ever returning to them even for holiday snapshots.

    Some time after the G4, I think, was released, Canon seemed to lose their way with the G series. They lost the articulating screen and the raw mode, and although still highly specced, Canon eventually discontinued the range after the G6. Then in Sept '06 they appeared again with the G7, then less than a year later the G9 complete with raw mode again. Gordon Laing has a great video review of it, and frankly its what made my mind up. It seems to tick all the boxes for me, though there is still no articulating screen, albeit it does have a 3" one !! Its still a little chunky, but I reckon I can live with that. It has raw, 12mp, all the control you could ever need, even the characteristic Canon wheel found on the Eos range. It has a great video function, which I can see myself using for the first time, and a respectable 6x zoom which is useable in the video mode. Finally you rarley need to use the menu system when shooting as most functions are available on the outside of the body, so in theory all adjustments can be made with the camera up to the eye. Oh and why do I need a viewfinder? Well thats what I'm used to and when looking at the screen with camera at arms length, and composing I need to put glasses on, then peer over them to see the view behind.

    Now, here's the thing, the cheapest I could find it was on a site called www.bestpricedbrands.co.uk
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    Interesting stuff Stephen - thanks for the links. Where are you off to on your jollidays?

    jo

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      Re: Canon G9........the temptation was too much

      Originally posted by jojo View Post
      Interesting stuff Stephen - thanks for the links. Where are you off to on your jollidays?

      jo
      Switzerland jojo. Whoahhh, its at East Midlands airport now
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        I don't know. You sound just like a six year old on Christmas Eve Switzerland eh, very photogenic (I should take the big chappie along as well if I were you )

        Enjoy your jolliday and new toy!

        jo

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          Re: Canon G9........the temptation was too much

          Hi Stephen,
          I arrived at the "pocket camera need" point, too. I went for the new Panasonic FX500, because of its 25mm wide angle and I wanted tiny. I've had it a week and it is fun to have a camera with me all the time again.
          Bob

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            Some nice features there Stephen. Amazing how they have moved on since the G3, which as you know I still love. I cannot understand why they stopped making the tilt and turn screen; for that reason alone I would never part with mine. My Fuji has a tilting screen, but it is not nearly as useful as the G3's.

            You say you will use the video; although my Fuji has one and I can zoom in with it, I often forget to use it.

            One thing I did notice and that the G9 still has the ND filter. I think that it a marvellous feature and I wish it was on my other cameras. The intervalometer I have never used, mainly because I couldn't really think of an appropriate use for it, but seeing the demonstration on the sky sparks ideas.

            I think the whole idea of the video demonstration is excellent, often people don't know what various features on their new cameras should be used for. I think it would be useful if all camera manufacturers supplied a CD with a video demo on, or at least supplied one to be downloaded.

            When I bought my Panny, I was looking for the best UK price and I was also surprised to find it came from the States from Bestpricesbrands.co.uk. I think that these people have been smart in selecting a name like that, as if I want the best price on any item, I usually Google for "best price for ... ... ?" and this company comes up. Clever. I was also able to follow delivery. I remember it saying something like it had left Watford or somewhere at 8 am and we were deciding how long it would take to get to Worksop, when the bell rang and there it was. Amazing how it can be followed like that.

            Have a good holiday and enjoy your camera.
            Audrey

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              Thanks Audrey. Its interesting to see you pick up on a couple of features of this camera I'd forgotten about, they really are too numerous to mention

              The camera is now on its way in the van from the local depot. As I understand it they are tracked using a bar coding system which reads the info on the package and relays that to the software on the computer which we can read on their website
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                Originally posted by Bob Ross View Post
                Hi Stephen,
                I arrived at the "pocket camera need" point, too. I went for the new Panasonic FX500, because of its 25mm wide angle and I wanted tiny. I've had it a week and it is fun to have a camera with me all the time again.
                Bob
                Hi Bob thanks for your input. You actually prove the point I made initially that we all have different needs in a camera. The 25mm lens would certainly be useful, but there would have been too many compromises for me I think if I'd gone for such a camera. The Ricoh GRDII also gets good reports, but its a fixed focal length camera. The Sigma equivalent is also tempting with its large sensor, and proves the fact it can be done in compacts, again though too many compromises and of course its much more expensive.
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                  I know it's not as exotic as Switzerland but my holiday in the Lake District is only a couple of weeks away now and I've been having similar thoughts about a compact. I have my 40D and assorted lenses / accessories in a Lowepro back-pack that is way too heavy for prolonged carrying, especially with the tripod on the back. I have a choice of two small wheeled trolleys which work fine on level ground but I find them a bit embarrassing to use . I could hire a Sherpa I suppose....

                  My daughter has a nice Canon with articulating screen (can't recall the model number) that I could borrow but I'd probably rather take my son's Panasonic Lumix FZ18 which produces fantastic results, covers something like 18-500mm with its 18x zoom and can shoot RAW (although I've not tried it). All I'd have to do is convince him to part with it for a week!

                  The G9 does look rather good but I'll not make any rash decisions in time for this holiday. I look forward to your views (and views!) on your return Stephen.
                  Stuart R
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                    Wahoooo 12.15 and its just arrived, inc a 13amp adaptor for use in the UK. OK need to get the battery charged now and have a play etc. Oh the joys of a new gadget
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                      Re: Canon G9........the temptation was too much

                      Haven't you got one already charged that you can just test it with?
                      Audrey

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                        Originally posted by Autumn View Post
                        Haven't you got one already charged that you can just test it with?
                        Different size battery Audrey, though the one that comes with it is about 2/3rds charged already and therefore operates the camera no problem. Just taken some comparison shots with the G3 on the kitchen worktop there is quite a difference. Will post them soon
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                          Originally posted by Stephen View Post
                          Just taken some comparison shots with the G3 on the kitchen worktop there is quite a difference. Will post them soon

                          Don't say that! I'm in the process of uploading a batch from my G3 into Photobox and I've also been busy filling up a load of CF cards with G3 movies.

                          I like my G3 and it serves me well - though it does have a poor viewfinder and I kinda wish the dimensions of the movies were larger.

                          Pol

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                            Re: Canon G9........the temptation was too much

                            OK, here are a few quick and dirty shots taken on the kitchen worktop using on camera flash bounced off the ceiling, not exactly studio quality but they are simply meant as a comparison in terms of dimension with the Canon G3. It really shows how things have moved on. The G9 is much more pocketable, in a coat or jacket at least. The external differences and controls are marked, and in the few minutes I've played with it so far, I'm already in love with the navigation system and the wheel control. Just need to take some photos with it now











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                              Right, I'd better stop reading this thread now I haven't had a new toy for a week
                              Stuart R
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