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  • Patrick
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    Re: Lack of action continues

    Originally posted by bigbob View Post
    I don't think we can /should blame Ian for all thats wrong with the forum .
    Take a look at the reponse time on most of the threads and most are unanswered for days sometimes weeks , the comment boxes in personall gallerys are empty and in general aparthy seems to have set in .
    WE are reponsable for the day to day smooth running of this forum , if we took more interest maybe Ian would'nt be needed so much .
    And before anyone says i've missed the point I HAVE'NT , i've ben around photography forums for 8 years now and this sort of thing occurs on most at some point , use it or lose it .
    I'm as much if not more to blame as well , i just have'nt joined in as much as i'd liked , not just because of work commitments but also because when i have logged on nothing seemed to have moved , sometimes for weeks on end .
    Anyway i'm not going anywhere i'll continue to log on and when i can join in , lets hope in a years time we don't look back and say ''what if '' ?

    B..

    I partly agree with you Bob, but the question why is interest from members droping?
    I think the replies from many members answer the question, a failure to deliver promises.
    Yes the new techi devices get attended too, upgrading this or that, but if the features they support are not maintained whats the point.
    That is clearly where the problem is, a lack of follow through that is resulting in the drop in interest.
    As I write my own loyalty to DP-Now is stretched, I'm not sure how long I have been a member over 5 years would not surprise me.

    Come on Ian for the time being forget technical up grades, tidy up the unused clear out the unwanted, get wanted features working as intended, update long awaited information, and ensure its maintained that way by you or someone you delegate to. If new features are added ensure they hit the ground running, not be left totally unused for 10 days as with the Golden Gallery


    Patrick

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  • bigbob
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    Re: Lack of action continues

    I don't think we can /should blame Ian for all thats wrong with the forum .
    Take a look at the reponse time on most of the threads and most are unanswered for days sometimes weeks , the comment boxes in personall gallerys are empty and in general aparthy seems to have set in .
    WE are reponsable for the day to day smooth running of this forum , if we took more interest maybe Ian would'nt be needed so much .
    And before anyone says i've missed the point I HAVE'NT , i've ben around photography forums for 8 years now and this sort of thing occurs on most at some point , use it or lose it .
    I'm as much if not more to blame as well , i just have'nt joined in as much as i'd liked , not just because of work commitments but also because when i have logged on nothing seemed to have moved , sometimes for weeks on end .
    Anyway i'm not going anywhere i'll continue to log on and when i can join in , lets hope in a years time we don't look back and say ''what if '' ?

    B..

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  • Bearface
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    Originally posted by Patrick View Post
    I care about the site and want to see it grow and retain members and sign up new members. I accept Ian's comment that there is always some that join in for a time and move on to pastures new, that is inevitable but we must hold on to a higher proportion to show that growth.
    All the successful sites I've been a member of for any length of time have had a loyal, core membership. These people are the unique characters, the experts, the clueless novices, the witty, the argumentative and the complete *********. However, they are valued by the site owners /admins because they represent a cross-section of personalities (to whom any newcomers can relate) and they have made the website into a welcoming community with an established, homely feel.

    DPNow has had this core membership, but right now there are very few of the old guard remaining, which is sad. People need to see that they are valued and heard, plus some consistency and follow-through wouldn't go amiss.

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  • ekkl
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    Starting this month, each month we'll be awarding a small prize for the most interesting individual message posted on the forum and one for the poster who has shown the most enthusiasm. The first winners will be chosen by the forum moderator team this time next month - so get posting now!
    This was posted in July 2006!

    From what I can make out there has only been one winner so far and that is by his own admission, can't see anywhere who has won what!

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  • Patrick
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    Originally posted by lumix View Post
    Personally I would feel it's more important to hang on to existing members. There are a lot of us quite willing to spread the word when there are good things to say. This site needs a good regular foundation of members. Attracting new members to replace old members is not the way forward IMHO. Some answers to questions like:- Who won the Slogan competition, Who won the MyPlace competition, Who are the monthly newsletter winners etc. etc. Why is this info so hard to get hold of. The competitions are run but the results are never published. Ok rant over. PS I often get emails from other sites that say "Haven't seen you around lately." Perhaps emailing some of our past members would get them to look back in.

    We see eye to eye on this Ron, I cant help thinking Ian has not fully understood what we are saying. He announced yesterday some functional improvements which is fine, but not addressed any of our grumbles or stated any intention to sort them out.
    Picture of the day still sits there, one month old.
    No attempt to post the competition winners.
    The golden Gallery is still empty.

    Continually adding new things but continuing to neglect the old issues will not
    solve the problem.

    I care about the site and want to see it grow and retain members and sign up new members. I accept Ian's comment that there is always some that join in for a time and move on to pastures new, that is inevitable but we must hold on to a higher proportion to show that growth.

    Patrick

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    Originally posted by Ian View Post
    I can categorically assure you that there is no access to private email on the forum apart from the account holder.

    I'm not trying to make excuses, but it's really quite normal for people to come and go on discussion forums. I'm signed up to dozens, covering all sorts of subject areas and most are very good, but I simply don't have the time to frequent them all regularly.

    Naturally, we all want our fave members to hang in there, but some simply can't because of other commitments.

    What's needed here is to attract new members who can contribute in a fresh and interesting way.

    Ian
    Personally I would feel it's more important to hang on to existing members. There are a lot of us quite willing to spread the word when there are good things to say. This site needs a good regular foundation of members. Attracting new members to replace old members is not the way forward IMHO. Some answers to questions like:- Who won the Slogan competition, Who won the MyPlace competition, Who are the monthly newsletter winners etc. etc. Why is this info so hard to get hold of. The competitions are run but the results are never published. Ok rant over. PS I often get emails from other sites that say "Haven't seen you around lately." Perhaps emailing some of our past members would get them to look back in.

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  • cowcrzy06
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    Ian ,

    A thought Occurred to me as I was reading your statement. I wondered if you could go back and see if there was a new feature or even a hot thread that gave a significant spike in sign ups to DP Now. Also there must be a way to entice some of the older members back.

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  • Ian
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    Originally posted by Tinka View Post
    There are a lot of good friendly and supportive people that gave encouragement who have left and no longer input to DPNOW. Since converting from film to digital, I for one have been helped and encouraged a great deal by many of the former members,and also some of the current members. It was a very steep learning curve. It is also noticeable that some choose not to be in communication with all members. I also wonder if The personal message system is open to access by all admin staff? when personal messages should only be accessable by those who are communicating.
    I can categorically assure you that there is no access to private email on the forum apart from the account holder.

    I'm not trying to make excuses, but it's really quite normal for people to come and go on discussion forums. I'm signed up to dozens, covering all sorts of subject areas and most are very good, but I simply don't have the time to frequent them all regularly.

    Naturally, we all want our fave members to hang in there, but some simply can't because of other commitments.

    What's needed here is to attract new members who can contribute in a fresh and interesting way.

    Ian

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  • Pol
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    Originally posted by Tinka View Post
    ..... I also wonder if The personal message system is open to access by all admin staff? when personal messages should only be accessable by those who are communicating.
    Are you asking if moderators or administrators can access and read private messages (PMs) that are, or have been, exchanged between members?

    If so, I can assure you that we can't. If you send a PM to another member, the only person who can read it you yourself (the sender) and the intended recipient. A private message is just that .. private. Completely private.

    Pol

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  • Tinka
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    There are a lot of good friendly and supportive people that gave encouragement who have left and no longer input to DPNOW. Since converting from film to digital, I for one have been helped and encouraged a great deal by many of the former members,and also some of the current members. It was a very steep learning curve. It is also noticeable that some choose not to be in communication with all members. I also wonder if The personal message system is open to access by all admin staff? when personal messages should only be accessable by those who are communicating.

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  • Pops
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    Well ya aint getting rid of me and that's a fact. I remember to well the help and confidence building comments that I received from Stephen and Pol in a not to distant past and I'm not letting them out of my sight cus they still do it

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  • Pol
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    Originally posted by lumix View Post
    Well if it's the site that's being talked about on the web. www.four-thirds.com why dose the link not work.
    Cuz that's not the right one. You ain't been digging properly.

    Keep digging and I'm sure you'll get there eventually.

    Here's a clue .... try searching for an e-group.

    Pol

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    Originally posted by Stephen View Post
    I don't think thats the one Ron. You may have to dig a little deeper to get the new forum site, though its aimed squarely at the Olympus UK E series user, so no conflict there
    Well if it's the site that's being talked about on the web. www.four-thirds.com why dose the link not work.

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  • cowcrzy06
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    Originally posted by lumix View Post
    The way I see it is that those that don't care about the site will and have walked away. Those of us that do care will keep nagging you to do better.

    Ron,
    Well said! Very well said! I couldn't agree with you more. What shames me most was that I almost Did walk away.I am so glad I didn't!

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Ian View Post
    Please - no sombre speculations! DPNow is the crown of the Ian Burley empire - it's not going to close down while I have a say in it! And it's not for sale if that's the next question.

    I know that one's sternest critics are often the ones that care the most, but please try to relax. The hard work in launching our third site (a job for Olympus UK) is done so I can refocus on DPNow and there are lots of things about to pop out of the DPNow pipeline.

    Ian
    The way I see it is that those that don't care about the site will and have walked away. Those of us that do care will keep nagging you to do better. Remember the saying. " A promise is not a promise until it is delivered." Problem is there are a lot of promises still in transit. That's what is causing the agitation.

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